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Old 07-14-2023, 11:08 AM
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Is Trump in jail yet? How many years did he get? I'm confused though because I saw him on the UFC broadcast this weekend and he was looking strong and ready to lead.
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Old 07-14-2023, 11:21 AM
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The funny thing that I think you overlook is the absolute boon Christianity has had on the progress in science. Your argument is hilariously bad. The entire scientific method can be credited to The Church. Your argument relies on the assumption that without the church the world would just ascend to a state of peace. Not sure what you see in history that supports that idea.
No, but I can see why you would confuse this when it was Dinesh D'Souza who said:

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"Why did science arise here and nowhere else? In his September 12, 2006, speech in Rosenberg, Germany, Pope Benedict XVI argued that it was due to Christianity's emphasis on the importance of reason...modern science is an invention of medieval Christianity, and that the greatest breakthroughs in scientific reason have largely been the work of Christians." (pgs. 83-84)
Actually! Persians could be credited with the most modern version of the scientific method.

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Explicit statement of a problem, tied to observation and to proof by experiment

Testing and/or criticism of a hypothesis using experimentation

Interpretation of data and formulation of a conclusion using mathematics

The publication of the findings
If that isn't the scientific method, I don't know what is! Even before that, Aristotle championed an empirical method of scientific thinking. Which absolutely predates even the concept of Christianity. Not to mention that science and technology was also flourishing in China and India with no influence from the West or any Christian influences. And it has been argued by some that it was actually the influences of the far east that were transported over by the ancient Muslim scholars that kicked off the Renaissance (as opposed to the Muslim scholars preserving the ancient Greek ideas only).

And as for Christianity without it some other evil would have arisen with some other name to associate the death and torture. This could argue that man is liable and not the overall teachings of Christianity. But some of these teachings have examples and justification as long as it was in GodÂ’s name to take up these types of revenge or resolution in their manual (The Bible). But would you really want to support these teaches when knowing what has occurred in its name? Further more some of those teachings from their literature push these horribly graphic altercations.
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Is Trump in jail yet? How many years did he get? I'm confused though because I saw him on the UFC broadcast this weekend and he was looking strong and ready to lead.
they've got em now!!1!!111!!!
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Old 07-14-2023, 12:36 PM
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they've got em now!!1!!111!!!
Getting him oh no, LoL, no no that gives the conservatives what they need for closure.

Trump was not arrested and handcuffed; instead, he surrendered himself and showed up to his arraignment.

And isn't this display of surrendering the point to be pushed to the voters?
In fact an imagery of loss encouragement.

Chipping away at Trump's platform; his presentation to his followers.
IE - Showing constant unfolding corruptible acts performed by this man makes the voters perceive themselves as corrupt if they are fooled into voting for this individual again. To show a sense of normality to mock those who still are fooled by him?

Don't hand him down a sentence until he is accepted by a majority as an embarrassment. That he has no chance of winning after yet another presidential bid resulting in a lose.

If he was to be handed down a punishment right away or to pass on this would make him the martyr the GOP voters really need to energize their base.

There is no incentive to inspire anything about this guy but instead to push further - a sense that there is no reason to even show up and even vote.

The house, senate and executive administration unwaverably needs to go the democrats in larger numbers to further push the correct progressive agenda that is suppose to be seen as normalism.

Keeping a history of examples of scandal by a party is important.. Nixon... Bush... and now Trump.
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Old 07-14-2023, 01:09 PM
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The way you claim I spew hate here really doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure what you think I've said that is so hateful.
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Classic liberal filth. Deny what your eyes see because it might offend an overly sensitive person.

If you can’t admit that certain cultures who are responsible for way more violent crimes when you look at the number of them that are walking around.
I am gonna guess you want brownie points cuz you used the word "cultures" instead of "ethnic groups" or "races."

rofl. no. You think you know who the enemy is. And you think they are among us. And only fools do not see them, clearly.

Why do you hate democracy Homesteaded? Ain't nothin' but a party ya'll.
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I am gonna guess you want brownie points cuz you used the word "cultures" instead of "ethnic groups" or "races."

rofl. no. You think you know who the enemy is. And you think they are among us. And only fools do not see them, clearly.

Why do you hate democracy Homesteaded? Ain't nothin' but a party ya'll.
democracy has a small D?
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Old 07-14-2023, 01:20 PM
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The house, senate and executive administration unwaverably needs to go the democrats in larger numbers to further push the correct progressive agenda that is suppose to be seen as normalism.
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Old 07-14-2023, 01:23 PM
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democracy has a small D?
American democracy does, yes. The micropenis of America is evident in the chest-beating arrogance of American exceptionalism
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Old 07-14-2023, 01:44 PM
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No, but I can see why you would confuse this when it was Dinesh D'Souza who said:



Actually! Persians could be credited with the most modern version of the scientific method.



If that isn't the scientific method, I don't know what is! Even before that, Aristotle championed an empirical method of scientific thinking. Which absolutely predates even the concept of Christianity. Not to mention that science and technology was also flourishing in China and India with no influence from the West or any Christian influences. And it has been argued by some that it was actually the influences of the far east that were transported over by the ancient Muslim scholars that kicked off the Renaissance (as opposed to the Muslim scholars preserving the ancient Greek ideas only).

And as for Christianity without it some other evil would have arisen with some other name to associate the death and torture. This could argue that man is liable and not the overall teachings of Christianity. But some of these teachings have examples and justification as long as it was in GodÂ’s name to take up these types of revenge or resolution in their manual (The Bible). But would you really want to support these teaches when knowing what has occurred in its name? Further more some of those teachings from their literature push these horribly graphic altercations.
https://youtu.be/Yat0ZKduW18

I strongly suggest you watch this series of lectures.

Prior to Christianity, and still today, essentially all spiritual systems with perhaps the exception of Islam, are attempts to obtain "perfection" of platonic ideals firsthand, declaring that it is possible to attain perfected virtues promulgated by the dogma of their respective religious doctrines.

If you understand platonic idealism, which I have provided numerous examples on this forum to date, of what that means, then it becomes rather apparent that all religions outside of the ethos of Christianity assert that man is capable of obtaining this perfection firsthand.

Christianity subsumed it's predecessors in the acknowledgement that the perfection of God can only exist in the realm of ideals, and all attempts to reify this perfection in this shared delusion we call "reality" fail, only approximating perfection at best.

This is the Crux of the limit of scientific knowledge as well, which is why is springs from Christianity, itself acknowledging that even quantifiable measurements, can only be approximated to correspond with the shared delusion of reality.
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Old 07-14-2023, 01:46 PM
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Subsequently, if you believe in t[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]he infallibility of science, reconcile QM to SR...NOW. provide us with a comprehensive scientific theory of everything. If you can't, suck a dick, your "science" is, at best, an approximation.
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