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Old 09-06-2022, 07:44 PM
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Dude you are fucking braindead. I honestly don't even know what to say anymore.
You haven't been able to say anything of note for 200+ posts now. It isn't anything new.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:48 PM
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Let me give you a simple example as to why your vague ideas aren't something we can easily quantify.

You can say a Shaman will go OOM more often, and thus have lower DPS. You haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

I could say a Mage pet keeps dying because of charm breaks, and thus the Mage has lower DPS. I haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

Both situations would drastically alter DPS, but it's difficult to quantify how often one would happen over the other. If you want to go down that route, both sides would need to provide hours of data that span multiple groups. Neither side has provided that data yet, and I doubt they will because it is too much work to do.
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Old 09-06-2022, 07:57 PM
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Let me give you a simple example as to why your vague ideas aren't something we can easily quantify.

You can say a Shaman will go OOM more often, and thus have lower DPS. You haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

I could say a Mage pet keeps dying because of charm breaks, and thus the Mage has lower DPS. I haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

Both situations would drastically alter DPS, but it's difficult to quantify how often one would happen over the other. If you want to go down that route, both sides would need to provide hours of data that span multiple groups. Neither side has provided that data yet, and I doubt they will because it is too much work to do.
We can say the sky is red too. Irrelevant claims or irrelevant hypotheticals - whether true or not - are still irrelevant. The problem is you seem to think you're making a point, but you are not hehe. This really isn't hard. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:31 PM
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Let me give you a simple example as to why your vague ideas aren't something we can easily quantify.

You can say a Shaman will go OOM more often, and thus have lower DPS. You haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

I could say a Mage pet keeps dying because of charm breaks, and thus the Mage has lower DPS. I haven't shown the situations where it would occur, but let's take it at face value.

Both situations would drastically alter DPS, but it's difficult to quantify how often one would happen over the other. If you want to go down that route, both sides would need to provide hours of data that span multiple groups. Neither side has provided that data yet, and I doubt they will because it is too much work to do.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:08 PM
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When Green merges with Blue eventually, I'm going to hate being on the same server with this idiot.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:12 PM
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When Green merges with Blue eventually, I'm going to hate being on the same server with this idiot.
we are hoping he goes to green and it never merges
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:13 PM
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When Green merges with Blue eventually, I'm going to hate being on the same server with this idiot.
That says more about you than it does about me. If you are willing to carry a grudge against someone simply because they didn't agree with you, that is pretty silly, especially since this is just a game. It honestly doesn't matter if I am right or wrong, that is just a weird thing to say. It isn't like you have the high ground either.

I don't hold grudges against anyone here, and would gladly group with them.
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:37 PM
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That says more about you than it does about me. If you are willing to carry a grudge against someone simply because they didn't agree with you, that is pretty silly, especially since this is just a game.
Your assertion/implication that Gloomlord is "willing to carry a grudge against [you; DSM] simply because they didn't agree with you" is simply yet another example of you misunderstanding or (intentionally or otherwise) misconstruing your understanding of another poster's post(s) hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The (irrefutable) fact which your continued attempts have consistently failed to refute is that you did NOT "simply disagree" with the other posters (such as Gloomlord, Troxx, PlsNoBan & myself), you in (irrefutable) fact carried on for 700+ posts of copy/pasting irrelevant math, making irrelevant statements & suggesting irrelevant hypotheticals and making unrealistic demands of other posters while consistently ignoring irrefutable facts (from multiple posters) and dodging simple questions directed toward you (from multiple posters) and repeatedly calling other posters names & making accusations of those others "trolling". You have also still not provided the relevant/requested data/evidence of your Shaman's DPS performance in a high level fast-paced killing DPS group. Why might that be?

I present this entire thread as evidence, and you have provided no counter-evidence.
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Old 09-07-2022, 12:23 AM
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That says more about you than it does about me. If you are willing to carry a grudge against someone simply because they didn't agree with you, that is pretty silly, especially since this is just a game. It honestly doesn't matter if I am right or wrong, that is just a weird thing to say. It isn't like you have the high ground either.

I don't hold grudges against anyone here, and would gladly group with them.
And yet you won't gladly concede your point, you hypocrite.
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:26 PM
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