ban on assault weapons and 10 round clip limit

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try this again. Probably was intended doesn't answer the question. What arms am I allowed to bear under the Constitution?

That question.

[Lexical]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So anything that would make the militia modern. I guess that means the type of guns they are selling to African warlords.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Lexical [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

So anything that would make the militia modern. I guess that means the type of guns they are selling to African warlords.

That's reading into and interpreting the Constitution. According to pro-"any"-gun people, we're not supposed to do that.

Still doesn't answer my question, Lex. What "arms" am I allowed to bear?

I say the Second Amendment says I can have this. I can "bear" it and it will help me fight those F-16's and Black Ops heelichoppers when the government invades. The Afghans use 'em...proof that we ken hide in them thar caves and legitimately ward off the pinko commie gayboys. Imagine the surprise on the faces of that 15-member street gang that invades my house and gets a faceful of :

FIM-92 Stinger


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[qety20]

Originally Posted by OforOppression [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do you know how fucking hard it would be to massacre a bunch of civvies with a M1A

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With proper training. not at all.

[Harmonium]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's reading into and interpreting the Constitution. According to pro-"any"-gun people, we're not supposed to do that.

Still doesn't answer my question, Lex. What "arms" am I allowed to bear?

I say the Second Amendment says I can have this. I can "bear" it and it will help me fight those F-16's and Black Ops heelichoppers when the government invades. The Afghans use 'em...proof that we ken hide in them thar caves and legitimately ward off the pinko commie gayboys. Imagine the surprise on the faces of that 15-member street gang that invades my house and gets a faceful of :

FIM-92 Stinger


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Nice straw man fallacy. I think you are the only one trying to say that the second amendment means we can have FIM-92 Stingers.

Please display a higher level of comprehension for continued discourse.

[patriot1776]

DONT LIKE IT MOVE

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice straw man fallacy. I think you are the only one trying to say that the second amendment means we can have FIM-92 Stingers.

Please display a higher level of comprehension for continued discourse.

Why is it a straw-man?

Why doesn't the Constitution allow me to have whatever "arms" I want? Am I supposed to infer that legitimate legislation should define what "arms" are reasonable?

Isn't that infringement?

Show me what "arms" I'm allowed to bear under the Constitution.

[qety20]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm with ya, bro. I'm pro-gun and anti assault-style weapons meself.

I need one of these extreme right-wingers to explain this to me.

What arms can you bear according to the Constitution?

Welp im going to sound like the crazy man here but...lets give this a shot. Considering the 2nd amendment was made for the possibility of people being able to overthrow a tyrannical government. Anything that a solider can operate or carry is "arms". I work for a company that manufactures machine guns. ( mostly for movies and rich dudes who want something to take to a private range to blow shit up with.) I do not have the money to and probably never will but the company owner has real "assault weapons". Full auto weapons,rpg's,flashbangs,grenades,belt fed machine guns. and had an up armored vehicle ( economy sucks man gotta sell some shit). He did all the paperwork right with ATF and it is totally legal. He doesn't think that the government is coming tomorrow to take his food and water. He just has them because he can. Now the flipside to this is. If america did turn into a tyrannical government. Like they were coming for everything you own its ours now type. It wouldn't work. at least not in the hands of soldiers. Because the individual I spoke of and myself are both current service members. and everyone I know in the military feels the same way. If we receive the order to do horrible things to Americans. with no justification. We will take all of our government funded equipment. and head east. and that would be the end of it. So to answer your question as to what are "arms". A piece of equipment that a individual could use to be on a equal fighting field with any foreign or domestic government. ( I know your all going to dub me as a crazy man but please understand I am actually the guy who is trying to be level headed here. )

[Harmonium]

I made a very articulate post about the definition of "arms". if the word "probably" causes your brain to cease functioning, then try and figure out a way to pretend it isn't there to be able to see the clear meaning presented in the text.

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[patriot1776]

banning assault weapons dum cuz they the best for hunting, home defense, and tyrannical governments. Basically every reason we possibly have the 2nd amendment