almost 80 people in fear

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cant intelligently speak

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[hrafn]

Raid zones should be flagged for PvP.

[Finawin]

Retarded idea and it will never work.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I cant intelligently speak about future happenings, based off what goes on presently, I would say yes most certainly one guild can dominate into and through Kunark.

There are 5 months left to Kunark, at least. The server sports excellent leadership in multiple guilds and an ever increasing hi-end playerbase. There are Aussie and Euro guilds up and coming...they're tough. In a nutshell, what goes on presently, won't continue to go on.

[Pikle]

Honestly after reading every post in this thread (waste of my life) I have found that about 3% of this is useful. Raid calendar is old news, if they wanted to put one in I'm assuming it would of been done months ago... GC deals with most of the top guilds on a daily/weekly basis and I personally know that IB isn't all you guys make them out to be. I joined these forums in december and used to think IB was the big bad guy, and everyone else was the little guy trying to take down goliath. Well that's not the issue at all.

I've been hearing the same shit for months now about how IB trained them or KSed them. The problem is I haven't seen any real proof, and I've seen people train IB, even the past few weeks... If you seriously don't remember what old school EQ was like, quit the server now. Cause I'm sure Finawin and others will agree, it was total chaos sometimes in Live back in 1999. I know for a fact 2 major guilds on the Rathe server went toe to toe against Naggy and they decided whoever got the XP got the loot. That means it wasn't about strategy or moving into a spot in time. It came down to who could do more dmg... I used to watch people quit their mains to make a wizard just so they could walk up and KS mobs from people. Because the GM's didn't have time to deal with player issues back then. The first year of EQ was unlike anything I had ever played. And if you seriously remember the GM's intervening in shit like this you are probably thinking after Kunark at least. The GM's were never around at first, people would go weeks without issues being resolved sometimes. The game in 99 blew up pretty fast and they didn't have the staff to maintain the player base, you can't argue this, it is fact.

And I'm sure people will call me a liar or I'm kissing ass or whatever. But all I did was sit back and watch all this develop with Finawin and others (over several months). And I've noticed those people that are completely unbiased and could care less about others opinions feel that IB is doing what just about any of us would do in their situation. I'm sure people have acted stupid at times in all guilds, I'm sure people have been trained or KSed in all guilds but if there is no proof of a given situation then what do you want to happen?

WHEN IB zoned into fear, FB had less than 15... If I were in their shoes I would of moved up and started pulling too. FB already admitted they weren't there for draco, they were just clearing and draco popped... you had ample time to get your people up there and kill draco. I do notice that in most of these situations people tend to wipe a lot... not sure if guilds get in a rush and overpull or aren't paying attention to the right things or what... But If FB had players die before IB even came in and were under 15, no reason for another guild to not try and take their shot while you were CRing.

EQ is a cutthroat game, it's hardcore to the max. There are way too many ego's around that think they are the best thing ever. When you get a lot of those types of people on the same server trying to win, it causes these issues. THERE WILL BE NO PERFECT RULESET, there will always be problems and I wish people would stop the name calling and bullshit and just work it out as adults...

Finawin and I will always find a way to work around the rules that are in place, so get ready, GC WILL OWN THE WORLD! (Sarcasm for you Salty) (Of course unless you get in our way, then we will take you down)

[Ektar]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are 5 months left to Kunark, at least. The server sports excellent leadership in multiple guilds and an ever increasing hi-end playerbase. There are Aussie and Euro guilds up and coming...they're tough. In a nutshell, what goes on presently, won't continue to go on.

I can agree that IB won't necessarily dominate forever. But are you seriously trying to say IB definitely won't dominate forever? You have no case to support that. The only case you can build is that anyone will be in power; all guilds have an equal (or at least some shot) of being that one.

Unless of course you're trying to imply IB is only strong now because it started early, and isn't good enough to keep up.

[Pikle]

Honestly it's a given that IB won't be the main power forever, It's really tough to continue to play and dominate on a server with natural progression if you have almost nothing to do. I know for a fact that the leadership of the other top 5 or 6 guilds want to take over IB's spot at the time. And right now most of them would give just about anything for it. This is content we have all(majority) adventured through a few times at some point. It's fun to do this against people who are very good at what they do, I quite enjoy the competition and I feel this server wouldn't be nearly competitive if it weren't for IB being the number 1 guild early. Because the top guild has to have good leadership for the whole server to benefit.

GC is the next GREAT GUILD! JOIN WHILE YOU CAN!

I think we should all start guilds named after QT movies. My new alt guild will be Natural Born Killers... Who's going to start Pulp Fiction!? So many good titles to choose from. And I love QT old school films as much as the next guy, but what happened man! You lost your touch, you got lucky Brad Pitt wanted to save IB.

Of course us at GC have an advantage, I talked to QT myself and his next film is Gothic Circle about a secret organization that dominated the world trade and banking for over 5000 thousand years. GC was found to have not only created Stone Henge, but also carved out the grand canyon with a giant Scimitar of the Mistwalker!

[Samuel]

WHEN IB zoned into fear, FB had less than 15... If I were in their shoes I would of moved up and started pulling too.

Wrong, we had more than 15 when IB zoned in.

FB already admitted they weren't there for draco, they were just clearing and draco popped...

Wrong, we knew Draco was due so we went early and started clearing.

Just because we have members who need armor drops does not mean we weren't there for Draco.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Ektar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can agree that IB won't necessarily dominate forever. But are you seriously trying to say IB definitely won't dominate forever? You have no case to support that. The only case you can build is that anyone will be in power; all guilds have an equal (or at least some shot) of being that one.

Unless of course you're trying to imply IB is only strong now because it started early, and isn't good enough to keep up.

Yes. I'm saying that IB definitely won't dominate forever. Not because you're not strong enough, not because you're not good enough. Simply because your level of skill and mobilization will be matched. There are enough veteran EQ leaders here that won't allow you continue, and enough veteran EQ players here to support the existing and future leadership. They all want a piece of the pie.

[Pikle]

Samuel I believe Salyy was the one that said FB wasn't there for draco. I will find it when I stop being lazy and have so many things to respond to. ALSO FB is in fear almost every night(it seems), you guys should go to hate, I know some of your members wish you would do hate more...

Well when my roommate Asteroid did a /who FB didn't have 15 people and IB had more, again I wish he had taken screenshots because I can't prove any of this.