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Old 10-24-2011, 10:40 PM
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Edit again: I was mostly speaking on the terms of Soloing outdoors and indoors ( which mostly only Necros, Enchanters and Mages [in some cases] can do ).
...Bards?
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...Bards?
again speaking totally on the ability to do both lol.

Everyone know's bards can run circles in OT.
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again speaking totally on the ability to do both lol.

Everyone know's bards can run circles in OT.
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:46 PM
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Get me a picture of you doing that in Seb, or in KC's LCY/RCY.

Or in LGuk around mid 40s to low 50s.

or Kedge around upper 40s to low 50s.

I would also take any picture of you soloing a "money" camp while also getting xp (by money camp I mean a camp in which a high value item* drops in a dungeon)
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Get me a picture of you doing that in Seb, or in KC's LCY/RCY.

Or in LGuk around mid 40s to low 50s.

or Kedge around upper 40s to low 50s.

I would also take any picture of you soloing a "money" camp while also getting xp
What you're asking for are the keys to the castle. I don't just give them to everyone, Stealin. You have to earn them.

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Old 10-24-2011, 10:55 PM
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What you're asking for are the keys to the castle. I don't just give them to everyone, Stealin. You have to earn them.

"I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it."
I know some of it could possibly be done (KC drolvarg captain area comes to mind.)

Still, bards are much more limited to what they can/can't do than say, necros and enchanters.

As far as just pure leveling solo, bards have it the easiest. As far as leveling and the ability to solo camps (in and out of dungeons) for money, necros and enchanters probably have it the easiest followed by mages.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:32 AM
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confirmed idiot.

EQ is a solo game as well as a grouping game. Soloing classes usually have a hard time finding groups where as shitty solo classes usually excel in getting groups (aside from rangers).


The only class that is both good at soloing and has great potential for groups is an Enchanter (should also be necro's but people hate them for odd reasons)..
EQ classic was never a solo game. UO was a solo game. The "this class for groups" and "this class for solo" or "this class for raids" mentality was not present in classic, nor was a huge part of the game catered around it like it later came to be, both for EQ and almost all modern MMOs.
Moreso than changes in mechanics (though this nerf can certainly be seen as such) there's been a change in mindset between now and when classic existed. People either don't have time or the will to group, or they are anti-social and use the former as an excuse.
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Old 10-25-2011, 01:35 AM
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i dont really remember any bards on my server running in circles kiting 20 mobs at a time that must not be classic id love to see a bard nerf
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Old 10-25-2011, 02:03 AM
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confirmed idiot.

EQ is a solo game as well as a grouping game. Soloing classes usually have a hard time finding groups where as shitty solo classes usually excel in getting groups (aside from rangers).


The only class that is both good at soloing and has great potential for groups is an Enchanter (should also be necro's but people hate them for odd reasons).

Also, I find it much more rewarding and fun not having to play with 5 incompetent retards that I have to rely on to progress. I'd rather solo dungeon camps and take all the risk myself than the alternative (unless i'm playing with 5 other people as good as I am).

Edit: the thing about Grouping classes. They are usually more desirable in raid settings and high level camps ( Seb Shroom king etc. ) where as necros, mages, druids really aren't desirable for much other than basic utilities. In overall balance of the game, I think it's pretty even. soooo

STFU and stop crying.
Sorry, wrong. People didn't have the "solo" mentality that they do now. That thought process is thanks to modern MMOs who have streamlined the leveling aspect of the game to allow for broader appeal. Classic EQ was primarily a group game.

You COULD solo on a few classes but it was not the preferred method of playing for most people. That's not to say that people didn't solo, but remember that live EQs population was dramatically higher than on P99. There was much more competition for camps and mobs, and in that case groups won out over solo 9 times out of 10.
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Old 10-25-2011, 03:42 AM
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I don't understand this solo-rage. If you want to solo, why not buy a copy of some newer RPG with amazingly superior graphics where you don't have to camp stuff for 12 hours+ ?

My problem with this change is that it significantly limits pet classes in small groups.
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