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Old 01-24-2025, 04:19 PM
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this happened today, Project Rise Partners bids $13.5B for Paramount shares - Variety

i would assume the plan is to fire everyone involved with Discovery and Section 31
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:04 PM
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The plot to major league in full effect.

Crossing my fingers you're right, but instead they are "set on fire".
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:07 PM
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Crossing my fingers you're close and instead it's, "set on fire".
with the amount of pissed off star trek fans that exist, the chances of getting a hung jury is prolly pretty good
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:12 PM
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Why does startrek make itself look literally like every dystopian movie describes the uncaring ultra rich?
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:14 PM
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"have you ever imagined how great the world would be if the bad guys in hunger games contgroled the whole galaxy? Well that's startrek now!"

I hate it so much.

It makes me sad to think that even if we were able to return to decency that all this is on video for future generations.

I legit would be ok with burning these movies in a big pile at a political rally.
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Old 01-24-2025, 05:49 PM
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pretty sure some people have done video essays on it, the TL;DR is it's due to politics, these shows aren't written by white moderate male conservatives like with TOS or neolibs who want a colorblind post capitalist utopia in space anymore like in TNG. its written by progressives who have a very different worldview

even DS9 was dystopian as fuck, but at least the writing was good, it's just not an actual star trek show, it's a "we're using the star trek IP to go to fucking war against Babylon five" show but you could argue it was the start down a slippery slope.

Janeway in Voyager is a war criminal crazy bitch, same as Sisko, shit even Picard in the movies is written completely different than Picard on TNG

RedletterMedia touches on it i think, or i saw it somewhere else idk.
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Old 01-24-2025, 06:02 PM
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speaking of shit that doesn't fucking suck.

Reboot holds up insanely well in 2025, way better than Tron
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Old 01-24-2025, 06:03 PM
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Yeah... I decided to keep my shizo rant in spoiler text so people dont have to read it if they dont want.

 
Yeah DS9 was like the edgy reminder "just because the federation is all roses doesn't mean the people that trade with gold press latinum are."

In a way, I kind of dislike it now, after we've seen how far startrek has progressed.

I take these new shows as like DS9 injected with massive steroids.

They're both that like same theme, of post modern misanthropy.

That gentle reminder, "yeah sure, some people have it nice hurray, lots of other people are miserable." type attitude that, at the start seemed like it was waking us up from an authoritarian routine... but instead was just slowly perverted everything and making people miserable and angry.

The trends today, remind me of the trends from the 90s... just like if you had Ai try to repeat them over and over.

Like all the causes that people are upset about today, abortion, race, immigration, sex.. these are the same issues we had when I was a kid.. and those were the same issues in the 1960s.

We don't care about these issues. We think the people who inspired us were cool, and THEY cared about the issues.. and we imitate the people in the 60s, and the kids in the 2000's imitate the kids in the 80s, and the kids in the 2020s imitate the kids in the 2000s.

It's like a long game of telephone. No progress. Just a more and more warped version of what feminism was. Gay pride. Anti-Racism. Everything is like, "oh if you don't want no borders, you want 0 immigration"... "oh you don't like getting pegged, that's because you're a homaphobe" .. etc etc.

Everything is just a copy of a copy of a copy.

These modern startrek shows, are just a copy of a copy of a copy. And they have inserted so much of that "woke shit" into their copies that they got rid of all the shit that made the damn show good in the first place.

But they can sit there and say, "startrek was always woke, that's why we're doing it you racist!"

It's like, it was also deep. That's the big difference. Gene Rodenberry was intelligent to come to his conclusions about what utopia should be. These kids are just trying to be as successful as he is. They don't care about utopia. They are just larping.

Startrek TNG woud like litreally write an episode about this... While the new startrek would just have a multi alien orgy scene and then roll credits.
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Old 01-24-2025, 07:36 PM
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Woke shit...

Good luck to the non-caring folk of the New Order (it is, you know that right? Right!).

Also. You've broken the meaning of the word for yourselves. You say it as an insult. I see it as praise.
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Old 01-24-2025, 08:37 PM
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i'm having a stroke trying to parse Duik's comment.
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