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Old 11-06-2023, 06:34 PM
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He’s got pretty nasty AC. Not like Lucan but there is some weird mojo going on.

It’s possible on normal stuff there would be a better spread. I just didn’t know of a target nearby. Maybe like one of those lvl 50 giants in the Frontier Mountains cave?
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Old 11-06-2023, 06:39 PM
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FM giants should be a good option. They don’t have funky ac or anything else weird that I can remember.
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Old 11-07-2023, 03:24 AM
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The shady parse shows a 5% improvement in max hit and average hit. I think looking at things like average hit, max hit and frequency of max hit is more useful than total damage or dps in these situations as it better controls variables of missed rounds due to stun, double/quad attacks rates, miss rates, etc
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Old 11-09-2023, 12:26 PM
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I’m still planning on investigating this shady phenomenon. I have a 4 day weekend so ample time. Can hammer after and test those named giants in FM tunnel after for comparison.
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Old 11-09-2023, 12:40 PM
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I’m still planning on investigating this shady phenomenon. I have a 4 day weekend so ample time. Can hammer after and test those named giants in FM tunnel after for comparison.
Yeah, but do consider shady is a mob that gets killed just about never so it isn’t a realistic parse. Ideally parses would be on mobs killed for xp/raid/solo or mobs which perform similarly to those targets. Shady is pretty exceptional.
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Old 11-09-2023, 12:56 PM
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Yeah, but do consider shady is a mob that gets killed just about never so it isn’t a realistic parse. Ideally parses would be on mobs killed for xp/raid/solo or mobs which perform similarly to those targets. Shady is pretty exceptional.
Yeah I wonder if Merchants have other special properties besides not giving experience and not social aggroing. Since they already have some unique properties, they may not be good parse targets if they have some sort of special defense modifier to make them harder to kill. I am just guessing though, I haven't looked through the NPC flags in the EQEMU code.

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I’m still planning on investigating this shady phenomenon. I have a 4 day weekend so ample time. Can hammer after and test those named giants in FM tunnel after for comparison.
Those should be good targets. I am interested in seeing the results! Only downside with them is they are often camped.
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Old 11-09-2023, 02:31 PM
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Only downside with them is they are often camped.
Not even really a downside - proves they are an applicable target for testing.
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Old 11-09-2023, 02:35 PM
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Not even really a downside - proves they are an applicable target for testing.
That's true! I more just mean that if you don't have a lot of time to play, you won't get a chance to do testing.
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Old 11-09-2023, 07:39 PM
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Yeah, but do consider shady is a mob that gets killed just about never so it isn’t a realistic parse. Ideally parses would be on mobs killed for xp/raid/solo or mobs which perform similarly to those targets. Shady is pretty exceptional.
Yea but he’s always the same level, has like 5k hps, 6 min repop or so, won’t straight up murder you, etc.

It’s a soul crusher but a consistent one; if you can’t handle doing crap DPS just come up with a multiplier. It’s really difficult to control variables when testing raid targets. It’s definitely better than parsing on the little turtle in Iceclad or Bloodmaw when every hit is a winner.
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Old 11-09-2023, 05:27 PM
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Parsing is the worst way to gauge mob toughness. Raw logs only thanks.
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