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Old 09-12-2023, 10:43 PM
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Xi has never given any indication that ego is enough. They'll rattle the saber all day long of course, they have to keep up the facade that they are a super power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China's_final_warning
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:48 PM
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what about it? seriously

nothing except a major shift in western power and ideology makes owning taiwan an existential necessity

tactically speaking, it makes alot more sense for russia to secure it's southern flank in ukraine then it does for china to take taiwan and gain nothing except an ego stroke
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Old 09-12-2023, 10:52 PM
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what about it? seriously

nothing except a major shift in western power and ideology makes owning taiwan an existential necessity

tactically speaking, it makes alot more sense for russia to secure it's southern flank in ukraine then it does for china to take taiwan and gain nothing except an ego stroke
It means Chy-na always talks tough but never follows through.
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Old 09-13-2023, 01:54 PM
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Except the US is incapable of reliably evacuating more than a few people out of Taiwan before China locks it down til later in the war or forever. It's also cute you think South Korea wouldn't be immediately overrun and that any carriers within 800 mi of China wouldn't be immediately sunk.

Neither side would get the physical infrastructure, and China would get the human capital unless literally assassinated by the US.
We will fight them and we’ll win, but yes, it will be bloody and terrible

Hopefully someone within China realizes this and focuses on becoming more like Singapore and less like North Korea

I’m not optimistic. China has gone from being massive shit hole to rising power back to massive shit hole in my lifetime. I don’t believe people change very fast
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Old 09-13-2023, 08:54 PM
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the chinese people and the CCP are very different entities

like Mao said, power flows from the barrel of a gun

the chinese people don't have any guns

the CCP has billions of guns.

the chinese people don't give a shit about taiwan

taiwan is a matter of pride to the CCP, not the chinese people.
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Old 09-13-2023, 09:00 PM
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Old 09-14-2023, 09:18 AM
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"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not. I'm really confused now. If you're too free, you're like the way Hong Kong is now. It's very chaotic. Taiwan is also chaotic," Chan, 55, told the Boao Forum for Asia – a regional conference modelled on the World Economic Forum in Davos – when pressed by fellow panel members to take a stance against rigorous control of the media on the mainland and to give his views on suffocating censorship in the growing Chinese film market.

"I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want,". - jackie chan 2009

and here we are.
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Old 09-14-2023, 12:03 PM
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A lot of behavior/actions comes from people understanding themselves and society as a whole. If somebody isn't allowed to learn how to control their own behavior/actions then society can expect them to act chaotically. This goes for not just behavior but for most everything regarding humans (and other sentient things in general).
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:52 AM
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A lot of behavior/actions comes from people understanding themselves and society as a whole. If somebody isn't allowed to learn how to control their own behavior/actions then society can expect them to act chaotically. This goes for not just behavior but for most everything regarding humans (and other sentient things in general).
my best Cathy newman ..So what you are saying is handing your power to a greater cause is also handing over responsibilty?

someone "isn't allowed to learn how to control their own behaviors/actions" because they dont have to take responsibility"?

childishness is definitely part of his charm.
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Old 09-14-2023, 12:48 PM
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Most of the world's unlisted and unregistered (with any government authority) biolabs are in NK and China. USA probably comes third.

Also maybe Friday night I get to go home! All seems to be working out well for all parties involved. Feels like G-d watching over everybody here!
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