ELON MUSK vs. MARK ZUCKERBERG CAGE MATCH

[Ooloo]

Yeah I'm definitely not complaining about that short notice switch. Ideally you want to see a proper fight after a full camp on both sides, but it's still symmetrical in that chimaev hasn't been training for usman either.

I've always kinda wondered how much fighters prepare for theoretical future opponents VS only preparing for the next specific scheduled opponent. Maybe they've been studying eachother passively this whole time. To some extent all fighters probably do.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I'm definitely not complaining about that short notice switch. Ideally you want to see a proper fight after a full camp on both sides, but it's still symmetrical in that chimaev hasn't been training for usman either.

I've always kinda wondered how much fighters prepare for theoretical future opponents VS only preparing for the next specific scheduled opponent. Maybe they've been studying eachother passively this whole time. To some extent all fighters probably do.

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance. But when I had a race coming up, I started doing much more frequent and faster “balls to the walls” runs in an effort to improve vo2max. And I saw a noticeable improvement in just a short time doing that

But it’s not something that I would enjoy doing, or find myself doing, when not preparing for a race. The only fighters I’ve heard who train crazy hard and stay in “ready for a fight” cardio shape always were Colby Covington and Khabib. I never really heard this about many others, so it’s assumed that most take it a little bit easier when not in a fight camp

So the question is, if so, how much can they truly improve their cardio in just 10 days?

[Rager and Quitter]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance.

I find myself doing the same thing. I run each morning, but then strength training 3 or 4 times per week, to maintain the baseline. If I have a half-marathon, or even a 10k coming up, my routine changes for at least a few months leading up to it, but I'm only doing it for fun with my wife.

You'd expect that someone who has dedicated themselves to a particular sport to be in a constant state of improvement, whether that's focusing on the next opponent/team, or analyzing where they lack and improving generally, especially during the downtimes. Perhaps that's what really separates the average performers from those that excel.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Rager and Quitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd expect that someone who has dedicated themselves to a particular sport to be in a constant state of improvement, whether that's focusing on the next opponent/team, or analyzing where they lack and improving generally, especially during the downtimes. Perhaps that's what really separates the average performers from those that excel.

I agree on the improving, but unfortunately many fighters focus so much on improving technique that they neglect cardio when not in a fight camp, IMO

But let me explain, I don’t mean neglect cardio as if they never do anything that gets their heart rate up. But as someone that has plateau’d on cardio many times including recently, just doing regular training, even stuff that gets the heart rate up, may not be enough to make significant gains on cardio

In order to improve that, IMO, you have to do what I consider to be some of the most difficult and mentally-testing workouts around. I’m talking like sprints up a hill. Or a run at max speed for as long as you can

When doing these, as you know from experience, you have not only the muscles burning with lactic acid, but also that mental feeling of suffocation, taking huge gulping breaths like you are about to drown. I am talking about pushing yourself to the limits to improve cardio

It’s extremely uncomfortable. Which is why I mentioned that only a very select few fighters have a reputation of maintaining their stellar gas tanks year round. The rest rely on fight camps to get their lungs and cardio system back to as strong as possible

Afterwards I’m guessing a lot stop training for max VO2 and go back to technique, practice sparring, etc

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya, I bet to some extent they already do. But my concern was cardio, to what level are these fighters training when not preparing for a fight?

I could say for myself well I train 2 hours on my work days, 3-4 hours on my off days always, and so I have certain level of baseline performance. But when I had a race coming up, I started doing much more frequent and faster “balls to the walls” runs in an effort to improve vo2max. And I saw a noticeable improvement in just a short time doing that

But it’s not something that I would enjoy doing, or find myself doing, when not preparing for a race. The only fighters I’ve heard who train crazy hard and stay in “ready for a fight” cardio shape always were Colby Covington and Khabib. I never really heard this about many others, so it’s assumed that most take it a little bit easier when not in a fight camp

So the question is, if so, how much can they truly improve their cardio in just 10 days?

True, Usman is probably not at A-Game cardio. On the other hand khamzat missed weight by like 7 pounds not very long ago right before a big fight, so I'm not sure where his dedication is at either. His go-to line seems to be "I don't care who I fight give me anyone" which might just be showmanship, maybe he meticulously studies each opponent, but with those russian guys you can never quite tell. Khabib had a similar line, he'd literally just say "Look I'm gonna do the same thing I always do" and he would, and nobody ever beat him.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True, Usman is probably not at A-Game cardio. On the other hand khamzat missed weight by like 7 pounds not very long ago right before a big fight, so I'm not sure where his dedication is at either. His go-to line seems to be "I don't care who I fight give me anyone" which might just be showmanship, maybe he meticulously studies each opponent, but with those russian guys you can never quite tell. Khabib had a similar line, he'd literally just say "Look I'm gonna do the same thing I always do" and he would, and nobody ever beat him.

Khamzat from what I heard does have a reputation of being a freak about training. I would guess his cardio is going to be far above Usman’s given Usman’s short notice

However, I have a feeling Khamzat will underestimate Usman’s punching power. If he tries to stand and bang with Usman like he did with Burns, he is very likely to get knocked the F out like Jorge did

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, I have a feeling Khamzat will underestimate Usman’s punching power. If he tries to stand and bang with Usman like he did with Burns, he is very likely to get knocked the F out like Jorge did

Yeah I actually just rewatched that KO Usman delivered to Masvidal. Seriously might be the cleanest single punch KO I've ever seen in mma. Jorge was OUT instantly. It wasn't some tko\hammerfist gray area shit.

[Seducio]

Quick question for you MMA folks. I haven't paid attention since the Gracie era.

Are these events avail on Youtube live or some other streaming site these days or is this still a Pay-per-view cable thing?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quick question for you MMA folks. I haven't paid attention since the Gracie era.

Are these events avail on Youtube live or some other streaming site these days or is this still a Pay-per-view cable thing?

Only ppv that I’m aware of, although it’s pretty easy to grab pirated versions on YouTube before they get taken down

The downside with the pirated versions is they have to get around algorithms that look for them, so they often include annoying background noise and/or closeup angles

[unsunghero]

The big thing working against Volk in their re-match Saturday, is now Islam will have Khabib in his corner as his coach

I heard that immediately after their first fight, Khabib called Islam and said he was very critical of Islam’s performance. And Islam said basically “Brother, you were not there. This was the first time you weren’t in my corner”

Having Khabib as a coach is pretty huge, he is a better coach than Javier Mendez and I think everyone knows it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=