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Old 07-14-2022, 01:14 PM
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Cause they need more amber heards to get up there and lie about how trump hulked out and gave his secret service dudes a stone cold stunner while driving or whatever
It's funny how everyone who is unwilling to admit the fact that it's pretty likely a crime occurred focuses in on this one narrow thing of "did Trump try to grab a steering wheel"...and do you know why people focus in on that? Because it's the only real fact that's disputable. Everything else that has come out makes it clear that there were potentially criminal actions that occurred.

People are going to go down for this when the Committee refers it to the DOJ. Which IMO is a good thing. Let's get these crazy nut jobs out of everything and work on rebuilding the Republican party into something respectable that makes me proud to be a Republican.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:25 PM
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Attorneys focus on specific facts. That's how cases are won.

If one side makes a big deal about a "fact", and the other side disagrees, it's on them to make an equally big deal in addressing that "fact."

In this situation, it's hearsay. "Bob told me Bill did this." Easy win. There's ample reason to make a big deal out of this.

1) Dems called the witness
2) Dems hyped the testimony
3) It's obvious hearsay

We should be hyping it more =) They faceplanted. We should point it out.

If the Dem case was so strong, they wouldn't be hyping hearsay. They have no case. It's all publicity to hopefully maybe slightly weaken the midterm assault coming. That's it.

4 months and then it's a bloodbath. Let's go.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:37 PM
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Tumptards like why won't you let it become a carnival of talking over each other. You know with screaming and fake parroted conspiracies.

Only jokes are those Trump supporters that still don't understand the scandals the Republican party needs to get through... Yet Again... Nixon... Bush.... Trump
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:42 PM
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It's funny how everyone who is unwilling to admit the fact that it's pretty likely a crime occurred focuses in on this one narrow thing of "did Trump try to grab a steering wheel"...and do you know why people focus in on that? Because it's the only real fact that's disputable. Everything else that has come out makes it clear that there were potentially criminal actions that occurred.

People are going to go down for this when the Committee refers it to the DOJ. Which IMO is a good thing. Let's get these crazy nut jobs out of everything and work on rebuilding the Republican party into something respectable that makes me proud to be a Republican.
Hey I totally agree any actual criminal actions that occurred should be punished accordingly. But "it's clear that maybe, potentially criminal actions might have occurred" isn't exactly a bombshell. They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial? Like, get back to me when they have hard evidence. "Day 563 of the jan 6 committee: BOMBSHELL: Crime maybe occured we think!" is getting old.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:16 PM
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Hey I totally agree any actual criminal actions that occurred should be punished accordingly. But "it's clear that maybe, potentially criminal actions might have occurred" isn't exactly a bombshell. They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial? Like, get back to me when they have hard evidence. "Day 563 of the jan 6 committee: BOMBSHELL: Crime maybe occured we think!" is getting old.
I say "potentially" because I'm a lawyer so that's just my instinct to write lol. I think people are definitely going down for this, the evidence is really clear.

And no the impeachment didn't fail for that reason lol. The primary reason it failed was because a bunch of moronic Republicans just took the partisan line and refused to convict no matter what. It was clear enough at that time. However, if you want to get technical about it, like 90% of the evidence that has come out through the Committee process was not known at the time of the impeachment trial...ergo, the impeachment proceedings aren't really relevant overall.

At any rate, stop letting yourself take politics so personally. I'm a Republican and I think it's okay to admit when a candidate was awful and did something messed up. That doesn't mean the "libs win" or some bs like that. Allowing something like Jan 6th to happen without any sort of repercussions would be terrible for the future of our country and our system. Put your personal desire to "own the Libs" and your stubbornness aside for a few seconds and let's do the right thing here and then we can all put it behind us and move forward into a new (hopefully better) era of American politics.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:28 PM
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Because liberals hate themselves.
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Old 07-13-2022, 10:38 PM
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Because liberals hate themselves.
they are inclusive.. they HATE everyone
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:34 PM
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You pointed out one statement that you thought was hearsay. I explained how in a trial that statement would be admissible. So we've already done that exercise, just because you don't like the answer or you don't have the legal understanding to process the information I gave you doesn't mean it's wrong lol.

Sorry, it's not hearsay lol. Keep panicking though.

Who cares about the midterms when it comes to this? I couldn't care less if the Committee has zero effect on the midterms. It's about accountability for people who tried to disrupt the democratic process for their own personal benefit. The hearings will be done and the referral to DOJ completed before the midterms...could it affect the midterms who knows but I don't care if it has zero effect on them at all, I'm just happy people are going to go down for the crimes they committed.

And I'm a Republican so this isn't an issue of political bias...the sanctity of our system is more important than anything - and everyone should feel that way, but you're so obsessed with "owning the Libs" that you'd sacrifice the good of our country just to be able to post "lol sucks Dems" on a message board. Good job.
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Old 07-14-2022, 01:46 PM
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You pointed out one statement that you thought was hearsay. I explained how in a trial that statement would be admissible. So we've already done that exercise, just because you don't like the answer or you don't have the legal understanding to process the information I gave you doesn't mean it's wrong lol.

Sorry, it's not hearsay lol. Keep panicking though.

Who cares about the midterms when it comes to this? I couldn't care less if the Committee has zero effect on the midterms. It's about accountability for people who tried to disrupt the democratic process for their own personal benefit. The hearings will be done and the referral to DOJ completed before the midterms...could it affect the midterms who knows but I don't care if it has zero effect on them at all, I'm just happy people are going to go down for the crimes they committed.

And I'm a Republican so this isn't an issue of political bias...the sanctity of our system is more important than anything - and everyone should feel that way, but you're so obsessed with "owning the Libs" that you'd sacrifice the good of our country just to be able to post "lol sucks Dems" on a message board. Good job.
You gave a number of ways in which statements might be allowed as an exception. You pontificated how maybe somehow possibly the statement might be accepted.

I asked you to pick a number from the list given in the law. You didn't.

Not panicking. Largely unconcerned with this nothing-burger. If they indict the Mayor of Portland who allowed for an actual insurrection, I would take them seriously.

We have limited resources in this short life. I can't be bothered by boys crying wolf and liars. If a group of people constantly lie for personal political gain while simultaneously promoting ideas and policies that are destructive... yes, I won't be spending time listening to them or taking them seriously.

Oh, and if anyone committed an actual crime, D or R, hang 'em high.
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Old 07-14-2022, 03:07 PM
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...They tried impeaching over this exact issue and it failed, precisely because they couldn't establish that anything criminal occurred, so what exactly is the point of this totally one-sided political show trial?
A. He was impeached. Not that they tried. He was impeached.

B. You don't need a crime to impeach

C. The committee is providing their finding to DoJ and DoJ will determine if a crime has been committed.

Stop parroting Trumptard conspiracy talking points that are wrong.
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