Roe v. Wade

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I want it to sink, but that's irrelevant.

I'm not making it sink, anymore than you are. It's just sinking, because that's what titanics do. Name one that hasn't. Egypt? Rome? Greece? Persia? Britten?

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

[Jibartik]

Or maybe they were too poor for birth control but have sex like normal people? I neither know the reason nor support the immoral action of having an abortion, but it is a right that many normal (not murders, not eugenics supporters) people have exercised and so that makes me question taking that right away from them

These are all issues that Id agree would be great to solve, but abortion is not the right way to do it, anymore than paying a bunch of kids for their loans is to solve the student loan problem.

[Kaveh]

Fatal as in existential for the species

Anyway gonna go to the gym so my heart makes it hopefully another couple decades to be around to help my kids and grandkids with what seems to be an increasingly crazy and nonsensical world

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These are all issues that Id agree would be great to solve, but abortion is not the right way to do it, anymore than paying a bunch of kids for their loans is to solve the student loan problem.

I don’t have the answers and won’t claim to. I just think we’re taking pleasure in reducing all of our collective rights so that politicians and grifters can grow ever more powerful and laugh at us. None of these dickheads on either side are fit to hold the powdered wigs of the founding fathers

[Jibartik]

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

Sure, but enjoying it, vs being upset about it, when it happens is the difference.

Like we're both = except im having fun and youre not, take my hand, lets just enjoy it!

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[Jibartik]

I just think we’re taking pleasure in reducing all of our collective rights so that politicians and grifters can grow ever more powerful and laugh at us. None of these dickheads on either side are fit to hold the powdered wigs of the founding fathers

To answer starkind, too... perhaps I am happy about this because it's just one more step we need to my favorite series finale idea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I die old age and see new discoveries, great, if I die tommorow because we all bow ourselves up, bad fricken ASS! lol who cares i dont.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally do not want it to sink because it would be bad for the world, possibly even fatal since we are in the nuclear era

Jib just wants all of us to die horribly in a nuclear apocalypse, why are you so upset about that?

[New_Guy]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when they decide to kill their "clump of cells" because the guy they banged was not the best father material.

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

[Evia]

Jib I am not saying the points you’re making are wrong. I agree with what you’re saying and totally get where you’re coming from.

I’m just saying it’s a fine line when you start taking away other people’s rights to their own body. Once we rationalize why we should do it, no matter the reasoning, it becomes easier and easier to start doing it in other areas of people’s lives. Where does it end?

Originally Posted by New_Guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

Also, giant LOL to people doing the mental gymnastics here implying anything jib has said makes him racist or has an interest in controlling women. He’s simply saying you should be held responsible for the decisions you make. Nowhere did I see anything mentioning race at all. Seems unfair to just toss out such strong accusations that are from left field just because he’s against abortion and you disagree.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jib I am not saying the points you’re making are wrong. I agree with what you’re saying and totally get where you’re coming from.

I’m just saying it’s a fine line when you start taking away other people’s rights to their own body. Once we rationalize why we should do it, no matter the reasoning, it becomes easier and easier to start doing it in other areas of people’s lives. Where does it end?

basically where its at now, but without so much abortion.

See it's not really about saving anyone, it's about finding a way to punish and control women for a narrow oversimplification of a complex problem.

Yes that is it, and guess what new guy, we're winning.