On its dying breath, <Criot> cries enough to turn blue into Dice simulator 2022

[Toxigen]

thats a lot of words you typed that nobody is going to read

[eisley]

That's okay. If you don't care about this topic you are not my target audience anyways.

Nobody listening to the other side is maybe part of the problem.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody listening to the other side is maybe part of the problem.

They're not here to listen. They're here to sling mud and receive free pixels. It's what the meta is down to. Can't win ring war? Get ring roll implemented. Can't win TOV? Get bag limits. Can't win Tormax or Dain without cheating? Accuse the other side of cheating. Now those are rolls, too.

It's pathetic that the members go along with it, but I guess I understand why. They've got so much time invested in their DKP that they don't want to feel the loss of abandoning the guild and leaving the DKP behind. It's the sunk cost fallacy.

So they come here and cry cry cry, but when you point out the error in their logic, they turn on you. There's a lot of people who make fun of their incessant whining, but somehow they in turn accuse YOU of crying. Wut lol.

This is some cognitive dissonance from YEARS of drinking Riot koolaid.

The only way to deal with it is to leave the losers to stew in their tears. There's no reasoning with them because they're dumb and brainwashed as I pointed out above.

Vanquish will continue dominating Riot in game, and Riot will just have to settle with welfare pixels and consolation tuna packages.

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way to deal with it is to leave the losers to stew in their tears. There's no reasoning with them because they're dumb and brainwashed as I pointed out above.

Vanquish will continue dominating Riot in game, and Riot will just have to settle with welfare pixels and consolation tuna packages.

I have to believe there's a better way. I asked Stunningly if he would quit if they changed everything to /random and he said "absolutely, yes."

So, what, all we will have left for competition is Quakes? Quakes are fun, sure, but it's an entirely different experience. It's less about head to head competition and more about smart mobilization and being adaptable. Not to mention they're almost always during the day American time, which isn't ideal for everyone.

Races are worth preserving. Both sides should want them. The devs should want them. Removing NToV races was disastrous. Is this really the game people want?

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by eisley [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Races are worth preserving. Both sides should want them.

If Riot wanted races, they wouldn't have started scripting them as "proof" that Vanquish was scripting.

This whole thing has been a farce so that their guild can continue to get SOMETHING out of their massive DKP hoard. I'm surprised so many regular members are sticking around to get loot just for the officers who implemented new ridiculous loot requirements that start tomorrow, but a lot have already left to join Vanquish or just chosen to go guildless.

We'll see what tomorrow brings when their new loot rules go into effect.

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We'll see what tomorrow brings when their new loot rules go into effect.

Sorry, can you expand on this? I haven't logged on much the past few months. What are the new loot rules going into effect?

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Riot wanted races, they wouldn't have started scripting them as "proof" that Vanquish was scripting.

This whole thing has been a farce so that their guild can continue to get SOMETHING out of their massive DKP hoard. I'm surprised so many regular members are sticking around to get loot just for the officers who implemented new ridiculous loot requirements that start tomorrow, but a lot have already left to join Vanquish or just chosen to go guildless.

We'll see what tomorrow brings when their new loot rules go into effect.

Pretty sure Riot scripted to bring staff attention onto it to make Vanquish stop scripting. I doubt their goal was to get races turned off; their goal was to have the staff make Vanquish stop cheating. The staff then took the easier route which was just to eliminate races altogether (and I don't blame them, they're volunteers).

Also, that wasn't the only proof. Vanquish had videos up of how to script, including for races lol. They were quickly deleted once they were flagged to the staff.

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're not here to listen. They're here to sling mud and receive free pixels. It's what the meta is down to. Can't win ring war? Get ring roll implemented. Can't win TOV? Get bag limits. Can't win Tormax or Dain without cheating? Accuse the other side of cheating. Now those are rolls, too.

It's pathetic that the members go along with it, but I guess I understand why. They've got so much time invested in their DKP that they don't want to feel the loss of abandoning the guild and leaving the DKP behind. It's the sunk cost fallacy.

So they come here and cry cry cry, but when you point out the error in their logic, they turn on you. There's a lot of people who make fun of their incessant whining, but somehow they in turn accuse YOU of crying. Wut lol.

This is some cognitive dissonance from YEARS of drinking Riot koolaid.

The only way to deal with it is to leave the losers to stew in their tears. There's no reasoning with them because they're dumb and brainwashed as I pointed out above.

Vanquish will continue dominating Riot in game, and Riot will just have to settle with welfare pixels and consolation tuna packages.

Deflect! Deny! Project! I love your motto

[eisley]

Originally Posted by Arvan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Deflect! Deny! Project! I love your motto

Wouldn't you agree all sides are guilty of this? There's little civility. That's why I tried to make a measured, thoughtful post. An elf dissertation.

Going down this path is bad for all parties involved. People in other guilds are just people behind a keyboard just like you. They just want to enjoy the game just like you.

Even the reductio ad absurdum solution of legalizing scripting is a vastly superior option to /random in my eyes. There has to be a better way.

[Chortles Snortles]

imagine typing an elf dissertation
(lol)