Two-Boxing

[rugerx]

Originally Posted by Austrianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only there was one that went up to Luclin and stopped there. Then I'd be sold.

Eqmac is close.

Up to POP then frozen in time, and 2 boxing is AOK.
I have seen more than a few P99'ers there.

As for two boxing not being classic, once Kunark was out 6 months, it was not unusual.

[Sethius]

Originally Posted by rugerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eqmac is close.

Up to POP then frozen in time, and 2 boxing is AOK.
I have seen more than a few P99'ers there.

As for two boxing not being classic, once Kunark was out 6 months, it was not unusual.

Two boxing is classic, I recall my good friend multi-boxing as early as Velious (and I have no doubt it happened before). I myself could not two box due to my computer being barely good enough at the time to run EQ and not having a separate pc for the second box.

I think the part that is not classic is that multiple accounts on this server are free and everyone now days has the hardware available to multi-box without issue. "Back in the day" you had to pay for multiple accounts and also have a very potent pc (that most people probably did not have) or multiple pc's in order to multi-box, so it was not as practical or simple for most people to multi-box.

That being said, grouping is classic too (I would guess from experience that single-boxing and grouping was the more common play-style during the time period of classic eq). With boxing, grouping tends to be decreased as people can just avoid the lfg process and just play solo. With a server population the size of P99, it is possible (if not probable) that grouping would be reduced to unacceptable levels were players allowed to box, particularly given that anyone can have multiple accounts for free and every pc now days can run many copies of EQ at the same time.

tl;dr: I agree with you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Austrianna]

Originally Posted by rugerx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eqmac is close.

Up to POP then frozen in time, and 2 boxing is AOK.
I have seen more than a few P99'ers there.

As for two boxing not being classic, once Kunark was out 6 months, it was not unusual.

I never looked into this because I don't have a mac. I really disliked planes of power, it just seemed to make things way too easy. I enjoyed luclin (aside from the inane key quests) even though it seems to get a lot of hate on these forums. I loved the bazaar and the spires.

[Moneysacks]

i can tell ya bazaar is one of the things that ruined player interaction and im very very against it . If u dont like to sit in EC and sell there is a few people that sell stuff for people . USE THEM its legit

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Moneysacks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i can tell ya bazaar is one of the things that ruined player interaction and im very very against it . If u dont like to sit in EC and sell there is a few people that sell stuff for people . USE THEM its legit

[Politely as possible]

Typical EC conversation:

"How much for HBC?"
"2000"
Silence.

It doesn't foster a whole lot of player interaction as opposed to things like grouping and killing monsters, which you can't do when you're sitting in EC spamming your sale list because there's no bazaar. You sure as hell can't get every item in the game you need on your own in any kind of reasonable time period.

If I didn't HAVE to sit in EC all day buying and selling things once in a while I'd have a LOT more time to group and make more friends.

[Honest]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Politely as possible]

Typical EC conversation:

"How much for HBC?"
"2000"
Silence.

It doesn't foster a whole lot of player interaction as opposed to things like grouping and killing monsters, which you can't do when you're sitting in EC spamming your sale list because there's no bazaar. You sure as hell can't get every item in the game you need on your own in any kind of reasonable time period.

If I didn't HAVE to sit in EC all day buying and selling things once in a while I'd have a LOT more time to group and make more friends.

I like EC (obviously my own opinion). I Like being able to haggle. Having a trading area for goods that exchange hands from player to player is part of the immersion. There have been times where i've grouped for xp and have done so in full groups in near silence. If you don't want to sit in EC, post your wares on the forums. I have a friend who does that pretty regularly. Seems to workout for him.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Honest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like EC (obviously my own opinion). I Like being able to haggle. Having a trading area for goods that exchange hands from player to player is part of the immersion. There have been times where i've grouped for xp and have done so in full groups in near silence. If you don't want to sit in EC, post your wares on the forums. I have a friend who does that pretty regularly. Seems to workout for him.

It's great that you like to play EconomyQuest but the waning server population is going to preclude GroupQuest soon, and part of the reason for that is that there are 60 players in EC at nearly all times who would probably be playing EQ instead of EconQ if they were allowed to buy and sell their goods in a reasonable way instead of having to do it for hours and hours in a dimly lit tunnel using the shift button in a volume that nature never intended.

Have no fear, there will still be plenty of people like you, and you can continue wearing out your shift + up, and the alphabetical keys that make up the word 'offer', 'ty', and 'np', but most of us have learned the value of a semi-automated bazaar system over the last 13 years of the internet.

[Honest]

Originally Posted by Slave [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are 60 players in EC at nearly all times who would probably be playing EQ instead of EconQ if they were allowed to buy and sell their goods in a reasonable way instead of having to do it for hours and hours in a dimly lit tunnel using the shift button in a volume that nature never intended

There are many, myself included, who sit in EC when they don't have attention enough to play in a group. I usually sit in EC while at work, watching a movie, doing shit around the house.

Regardless of your opinion or mine the point of the matter is I don't think it's changing.

[hdawg06]

The two boxing rule needs to be reevaluated. So few people play anymore that if you are not in a big/good guild that often times has groups going at all levels you really cannot do hardly anything. I feel like starting a melee character that isn't an uber twink is completely worthless because I don't know enough people that can help him get past 20 very easily. Yes, I could go and sit in a zone for 3-4 hours, but most of the time those zones barely have enough to make even 1 group, let alone many. Plus, Kunark is mainly dead in the low end. Nobody is ever in LOIO or FM, so until you get to about 30 and can go to OT you are screwed.

There are a lot of things that would actually make this server better that weren't "classic." Last time I checked, we have been off the classic patch rotation for nearly a year.

Not everybody has 60 days play time to devote to a character...

[Wildir]

I am in a fairly active guild and recently decided to come back and try to play, and at 54 it is hard to find a group. I have found one group and it was because someone in a guild group was leaving about the time I got on.

Boxing was part of the classic experience, I boxed a friends character after he quit through kunark and beyond.

I would 2 box so I could log on and be productive, and I usually added other players if I was going to be on for a while. This needs to be looked into, maybe only allow 2 logins per IP?

Thanks,
Wildcat