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Old 05-13-2021, 01:44 PM
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To be more specific. Lets say I make a spreadsheet that calculates risk.

5% risk associated with location A (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)
15% risk associated with location B (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)

and other risk factors that I assign a value to with a math tool (a spreadsheet). This risk % is calculated equally based on the given rates of graduation, or whatever the variable.

I put your info into a few cells in a spreadsheet, and my tool says 72% safe, and my minimum safe percent is 75% , so I reject you.

Did my tool (me) reject you, or did "math" reject you.

I am making a tool like this right now to support a business decision. Depending on how I present the information I can make the decision as positive or negative as possible. When discussing these things for the collective good of my organization I take pains to explain the riskiest possible perspective, and the least risky possible perspective using the same data.

I can easily make a tool that applies equal "fair" weights to all the variables that will provide rejection status for whatever particular group or area that I want to be rejected. I can cater the tool to my needs. The tool objectively uses provided data and fairly applies weights but always rejects certain types of people. I can make the tool do what I want. There is an error in assuming the risk assessment tools we create for ourselves are somehow neutral. We make them. We don't have to listen to what they say and as a society we should have a say in the way these things are handled. Math isn't racist, but my math based tool can easily be.
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:52 PM
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San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

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Old 05-13-2021, 01:56 PM
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San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

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They never did
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:41 PM
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San Fran police don't publicize race in their crime reporting anymore.

lmao
Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:43 PM
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Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?
*chuckles in logic*
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:50 PM
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Fun fact: they implemented this policy to try and prevent racial discrimination and profiling, since some races are responsible for an extremely disproportionate rate of crime in the bay area and they thought that withholding this information would prevent people from noticing patterns. In reality it's had the opposite effect. People here aren't dumb and know what's up, and end up discussing the crimes and the coverups more than they used to, a la Barbara Streisand effect.

As an example: there's been a very large recent spike in violent black-on-asian crimes in the bay area, and the distrust of blacks is skyrocketing within the asian community. The police report very little information on the perp ("it was a man in his 30s"), and this has caused asians to feel like they're not being protected by the police. So the racial component inevitably ends up leaked on Nextdoor, Facebook, Clubhouse and the like, and this has created some serious discrimination and profiling between these communities.

So strange, I thought woke policies were meant to improve society?
Solve for gender or economic class instead, racist math-doer. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-13-2021, 02:58 PM
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noooooo statistics are RACIST

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Old 05-13-2021, 03:00 PM
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That's still solving for race you idiot. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-13-2021, 01:53 PM
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You pushed me dude YOU pushed me. I just sent you a PM about hwo you genuenly made me feel bad today is that not enough??? you have to try to make me feel even worse by painting this fake narrative that I attacked you?! Everyone knows me here, im friends with everyone but byue and you now apparently you were making a fool of me this whole time

I literally post here because people here get along with each others sensibilities

but what you and byue do is just attack and insult people literally all day long and I have thrown you a bone every time and now that after all these years I tell you to shut the fuck up once and you think you can use that as a reason to have been this way for years????

I really bummed me out today to log into these boards and read you and byue just insulting me not online in this thread but you horza followed me to other threads this morning to iunsult me more.

Im here to talk about stuff I love you're here today to hurt me.
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