Cancel culture.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, any job that requires doing is a job worth doing.
Second, I'm a trained chef with 10 years experience and with my own restaurant.
I do line cooking, but a lot more than just that.

Third, I also have a baccalaureate, speak three languages and what d you do, in your life, that makes you so much better than me, another human being?

Because we don't know.
What makes you important, beside being white and speaking English and being American?

You learned English because we dominate the world. You learned French because you were born there. Americans not knowing more languages is a indicator of world dominance. Who knows what your other language is but you probably struggle.

So you washed dishes for 8 years, owner finally let you near the food as long as you shower regularly. Now you’re a line cook with two years experience, selling it as 10 to the elf forums. You clearly assign value to your p99 character which is a huge sign that you do not have much value in the real world.

It’s okay to be a peasant. Move along buddy.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on what you're talking about.

The results of the blind use of mathmetical risk assessment models may indeed be racist results. https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/tec...ion/index.html

Math itself, calculating things with data is not.

But using some kind of tool that is supposed to be impartial to make decisions for us may not be a just way to make decisions even if its convenient to say "I defer to the tool that someone made, sorry, the tool says so, can't do anything about it"

But just saying "Math is racist" is more of a clickbait thing used to make the right hate the left more, and vice versa, since there seems to be interest in cultivating tribalism as much as possible, to our collective demise.

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think any of the people posting in this thread are your friends, then I have some bad news.

I'm jibartiks friend. Would help the wisest necro IRL if given a chance.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

I didn't read the article I was providing it as reference to the concept.

The idea is that the tools we create and their implementation can have unintended (or fully intended) results. The tools aren't impartial.

Math is impartial. Our tools that use math are not. Get it?

[Toxigen]

Math, coffee, and arriving to appointments on time is all racist.

Hope you enjoy the next 40 years, you evil white business owner.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you log in every day to interact with people you think are NOT your online friends then i have some really bad news.

and if that's how youve felt this last 5 years, then im really sorry.

pretty sure I could group with anyone here and have a great night, im disappointed you disagree.

My friends don't tell me to shut the fuck up, accuse me of secretly not playing the game, and repeatedly insult me because of political disagreements.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm jibartiks friend. Would help the wisest necro IRL if given a chance.

Thanks gusto! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a game guys, it's not a place that you should go to feel hate and anger. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gustoo]

To be more specific. Lets say I make a spreadsheet that calculates risk.

5% risk associated with location A (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)
15% risk associated with location B (based on high school graduation rates of the people there)

and other risk factors that I assign a value to with a math tool (a spreadsheet). This risk % is calculated equally based on the given rates of graduation, or whatever the variable.

I put your info into a few cells in a spreadsheet, and my tool says 72% safe, and my minimum safe percent is 75% , so I reject you.

Did my tool (me) reject you, or did "math" reject you.

I am making a tool like this right now to support a business decision. Depending on how I present the information I can make the decision as positive or negative as possible. When discussing these things for the collective good of my organization I take pains to explain the riskiest possible perspective, and the least risky possible perspective using the same data.

I can easily make a tool that applies equal "fair" weights to all the variables that will provide rejection status for whatever particular group or area that I want to be rejected. I can cater the tool to my needs. The tool objectively uses provided data and fairly applies weights but always rejects certain types of people. I can make the tool do what I want. There is an error in assuming the risk assessment tools we create for ourselves are somehow neutral. We make them. We don't have to listen to what they say and as a society we should have a say in the way these things are handled. Math isn't racist, but my math based tool can easily be.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pure trash article. Inequality is not on the rise. Math is racist is perhaps the most insane thing anyone could say. It’s the purist form of an objective reality. You should take a nap.

Purest.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Burning down the forums would probably be a net positive to be honest.

No