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Old 12-15-2019, 12:31 AM
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"Hey man, what if we ripped off all these MUDs and put it in 3D like Doom."

The VisionTM! Man, we really lost another Steve Jobs there. Thank goodness Musk is still alive or life wouldn't be worth our daily soy.
“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."― Jim Jarmusch
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Old 12-16-2019, 03:43 AM
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“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to."― Jim Jarmusch
Gaudi had a very interesting take on originality as well, look it up, its amazing.

Nice to quote Jean-Luc as well. +1 from my side to you [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-16-2019, 05:28 PM
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Well, between Ennewi's appeals to the authority of Reddit comments and the even more sagacious commenters at pantheonmmo.com, how could a person with a body temperature IQ not be won over.
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Old 12-17-2019, 04:36 AM
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Well, between Ennewi's appeals to the authority of Reddit comments and the even more sagacious commenters at pantheonmmo.com, how could a person with a body temperature IQ not be won over.
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:43 PM
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I watched 85-90% of that dev video, and I really wanted to like it, but it doesn't look great.

I'm really hoping I'm wrong and it ends up being fantastic. The fact that it's still in Alpha means there could be massive room for improvement but it also is sketchy because of how long the games been in development.

Hoping I'm wrong. We need a updated MMO with old school heart and spirit.
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Old 12-17-2019, 08:54 PM
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I watched 85-90% of that dev video, and I really wanted to like it, but it doesn't look great.

I'm really hoping I'm wrong and it ends up being fantastic. The fact that it's still in Alpha means there could be massive room for improvement but it also is sketchy because of how long the games been in development.

Hoping I'm wrong. We need a updated MMO with old school heart and spirit.
And there's people trying to corrupt it talking about adding instances and a cash shop other garbage that we get in every other game. Trying to "modernize" it which really just means ruin it. Like that's the complete opposite of what Pantheon is supposed to be. And they've already added giant flat colored nameplates and debuff icons over the mobs so not looking good. Even though the world art looks amazing.
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And there's people trying to corrupt it talking about adding instances and a cash shop other garbage that we get in every other game. Trying to "modernize" it which really just means ruin it. Like that's the complete opposite of what Pantheon is supposed to be. And they've already added giant flat colored nameplates and debuff icons over the mobs so not looking good. Even though the world art looks amazing.
Wow that is baaaaad, cash shops are the first sign the game will try to harvest and burn everything they can off the game for a quick profit.
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Old 12-19-2019, 06:46 AM
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Wow that is baaaaad, cash shops are the first sign the game will try to harvest and burn everything they can off the game for a quick profit.
Yes, but by people talking about it, he means forum people. Visionary Realms have repeatedly said that Pantheon will not feature a cash shop.
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Old 12-21-2019, 08:20 PM
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Yes, but by people talking about it, he means forum people. Visionary Realms have repeatedly said that Pantheon will not feature a cash shop.
After adding nameplates and debuff icons under mobs they might as well add a cash shop because that already ruins the "spirit of EQ" feel to it. And thats really the only thing that would have made it different from every other MMO. Because its not like acclimation or the perception system is anything special (or the combat) because its just like an achievement popup that tells you when to look for secrets. Not sure why they felt the need to add that instead of just putting secrets in the game for us to discover on our own. Well I think I know why but its a dumb reason.

I guess its good that they wont include instances and still require corpse runs. If they stick to that. But all they had to do was make good feeling combat like classic WoW except with more abilities so its not watered down with a low skill cap, then have a minimal UI with no target rings, telegraphs, nameplates or other garbage, and put secrets and corpse runs in the game. And no instances. That's literally the recipe for an MMO that will save the genre. Besides some other nuance systems that I came up with to prevent end game stagnation and bottleneck camps like "sidegrades", that I won't go into.
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Old 12-22-2019, 09:35 AM
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still boggles the mind that no one except blizzard put time into making combat fast and responsive

no comment here about wow's philosophy or other gameplay. It was one of the few post-eq mmos where combat didn't feel like you're operating some shotty mud truck, imo ofc

I hope that vanguard 2 puts some effort into the feel of the thing you're doing 90% of the time while playing the game. I don't care how shiny the ground is, if your char looks and feels like a clay golem it's weird... Looking at you eq2
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