Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Stumpes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is how old EQ was. Stop complaining because you want it to be like WoW where every person can have any item. Those items are rare for a reason, and seldom hit the open market.

How this conversation got this far before this point was made is simply astounding. I keep forgetting i'm probably not even talking to EQ players here.

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How this conversation got this far before this point was made is simply astounding. I keep forgetting i'm probably not even talking to EQ players here.

Ahem:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...2&postcount=53

[Kika Maslyaka]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

It does. Otherwise this thread doesn't exist. You are now arguing against facts. congrats!

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Random you say? More like NEVER
I can respect a race to a camp to be FIRST, but this doesn't entitled you to be THE ONLY, regardless of how much "effort" you think you put in into it.

Except all the camps can and do change hands (to random people.)

What's going on here is you run up to a camp, see it's camped, then come back the next day and see it's still camped and assume the same people have been cmaping it nonstop. You act as if there's a concerted effort to stop you from getting loot. There isn't.

If YOU want loot then YOU can put in the time and dedication to get it. If you think you should be able to log in at 5pm on a Thursday and run straight to the CoS camp and start getting a chance at loot then you're a douchebag with a horrid sense of entitlement.

"hay guys, we've been here for 20 hours with no CoS or Idol, but Kika here just ran up and has been here for 5 minutes, the only fair thing to do is let him in the group and have a shot at loot!"

Give me a break. Get your sense of entitlement out of here.

[Mcbard]

This thread needs more analogies.

Maybe then everyone will be able to understand the other individuals point of view.

Surely that will work.

[Kika Maslyaka]

I am not looking for entitlement - I am looking for fairness.

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not looking for entitlement - I am looking for fairness.

And the current system is plenty fair. People who get loot from camps do so because they are dedicated to their goal of doing so. You are not dedicated, so you have less chance of getting loot. YOU are stopping yourself from getting the camps, not other people.

You can sit at the camp and wait. You can log out there and play an alt and check back in occasionally. You can check the camp at offpeak hours constantly. You can always ask the people if they will accept help. You can join a guild or make friends and go hold down your own camp. You have TONS of options for getting the loot you want if you actually dedicate yourself to doing so.

If you want to just stroll in to any camp and start getting exp and loot just for showing up, well, this might not be the game for you. Unlike modern MMOs, you don't get what you want here just because you want it.

[Kika Maslyaka]

you missing a point that have already been made.
I don't mind sitting in line waiting for 1 hour, 2,3, 4 - if I would have any certainty that my turn will actually come.
Whats been argued here, is that the group currently holding the camp has no intention of passing it to the people on wait line - they keep bringing in more friends and family and guildies, to hold the camp 24/7 and NOT pass it on to anyone else outside their closed circle.

When fabled event went live in EQ - the line in Lower Guk for fabled FBSS was 47 people long, and 17 for fabled SSOY. I joined the waiting list, and patiently awaited my turn for SSOY for 4 hours, and finally get it.
I gave up on the #47 in line for FBSS and went to sleep.
But this was FAIR.
It wasn't that 1 guild has locked down the camp and and kept bringing in more of their own people with disregard to guys who were there before them

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you missing a point that have already been made.
I don't mind sitting in line waiting for 1 hour, 2,3, 4 - if I would have any certainty that my turn will actually come.
Whats been argued here, is that the group currently holding the camp has no intention of passing it to the people on wait line - they keep bringing in more friends and family and guildies, to hold the camp 24/7 and NOT pass it on to anyone else outside their closed circle.

I understand the straw man argument. No camp gets held 24/7. The CoS camp for example is one of the most popular camps atm and I've walked in to it empty on more than one occasion.

Maybe if you actually went out and tried to get the stuff you want and actually check the camps more than once a week rather than whining on the forums then you could actually get some stuff you want.