the TRAINS thread

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Dad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. That is where all the value is. Giving up something today for the chance at something tomorrow is the foundation of all successful people.

Learn it.

you can't give up something you don't have (^.~)v i liek the trumpism though ^^

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can't afford morals on a dollar a day

I think it is more interesting than that. Protecting children are a visceral response of most people, but it is necessarily moral under all circumstances. For example, if you are the sole provider of your children and starve because you give all the food to them, then they will die too. If however, you starve one, then you may continue to provide for the other. sounds fricken awful, but refusing to be that heartless piece of suit means you all die, making you a dead selfish piece of shit :c

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is more interesting than that. Protecting children are a visceral response of most people, but it is necessarily moral under all circumstances. For example, if you are the sole provider of your children and starve because you give all the food to them, then they will die too. If however, you starve one, then you may continue to provide for the other. sounds fricken awful, but refusing to be that heartless piece of suit means you all die, making you a dead selfish piece of shit :c

we're saying the same thing, you're just up your own butt about it

[Nibblewitz]

I disagree that there is a lack of morality here. You would be hard pressed to find someone who thinks it is immoral to secure your own oxygen mask first.

[d3r14k]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

morality is less valuable than your child not starving

mousebrain

Mice are actually quite intelligent, it's the people that are the dumb ones.

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[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is more interesting than that. Protecting children are a visceral response of most people, but it is necessarily moral under all circumstances. For example, if you are the sole provider of your children and starve because you give all the food to them, then they will die too. If however, you starve one, then you may continue to provide for the other. sounds fricken awful, but refusing to be that heartless piece of suit means you all die, making you a dead selfish piece of shit :c

Why have kids if you’re starving? Why have kids if you don’t have $500000 in cash? That’s how much it costs to raise one. Hope this helps

[Cecily]

My dad did it on... 400 x 11 x 12 = $52,800 child support for two kids.

25,400 per kid. Sorry you paid too much.

This makes me so furious to think about.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why have kids if you’re starving? Why have kids if you don’t have $500000 in cash? That’s how much it costs to raise one. Hope this helps

only globalists get to breed

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why have kids if you’re starving? Why have kids if you don’t have $500000 in cash? That’s how much it costs to raise one. Hope this helps

It takes $500000? I've heard that number thrown around before and it's grossly overinflated.

I mean it probably only costs $25,000 a year per kid, and they probably will only be there in your house for around 20 years.........

Dang that's $500,000


But seriously I have 3 kids and only make 90k a year, so I think there is definitely some double counting going on when it comes cost of children. I imagine the true cost is more like $10,000 per child per year.

Numbers get convoluted when you take into the cost of public education which runs about $10k per year per pupil, tax deductions and credits, property taxes, and lastly the child's ability to pay future taxes to cover your Medicare and social security.

[Cecily]

"The new estimates showed that the $80,926 estimated for a 1982 child born in the North Central region was the lowest. In the Northeast, the estimated cost was $85,353; in the South, $87,795, and in the West, $89,720."

Indexing yearly income
Year	WageIndex
1980	$12,513.46
1983	$15,239.24
1986	$17,321.82
1989	$20,099.55

Price went up ~12k between 1980 and 1982. I'm 1984 and my sister is 1985. So mom was stuck with at least 120k not adjusted for inflation and I can guarantee my mom made less than average. Still got us to private elementary school somehow. I just gained some much needed perspective.
Thanks, Dad.