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Old 03-01-2018, 01:21 PM
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So there was nothing else AW could have done for this incident then?

I’m just baffled why a ‘let’s get them suspended’ petition went in other than spite.

Well they sure showed us!

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Awakened could have not been there in the first place (left zone after conceding)
Awakened could have waited to pull Feshlak till after CSG had killed Eashen and vacated the space
Awakened could have done the two above on the countless times variations of this has happened in the past
Awakened could have been more open to not have 2 guilds kill 95% of the raid content for months and months on end.

You are right. After the train, Awakened couldn't do much - damage already done, a lot of our casual people wasted 90 minutes of their time, and Awakened doesn't really have anything to offer to recompense that - they don't "own" any content they could give us, and as Eratani says they are not allowed to help us with Eashen.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:26 PM
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Awakened could have not been there in the first place (left zone after conceding)
Awakened could have waited to pull Feshlak till after CSG had killed Eashen and vacated the space
Awakened could have done the two above on the countless times variations of this has happened in the past
Awakened could have been more open to not have 2 guilds kill 95% of the raid content for months and months on end.
CSG took how many hours to mobilize for Eashen? How long would you have liked us to leave? Eashen isn't the only mob in that zone. If this was DN, and we conceded Zlandicar, we would have left. Stop being dumb.

We set up camp elsewhere in order to pull Feshlak. Our pull failed. Question, why was CSG using the entrance? Aren't you opposed to that? At least Awakened used a cubby.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:30 PM
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You are right. After the train, Awakened couldn't do much - damage already done, a lot of our casual people wasted 90 minutes of their time, and Awakened doesn't really have anything to offer to recompense that - they don't "own" any content they could give us, and as Eratani says they are not allowed to help us with Eashen.
Lol "wasted 90 minutes of your time." When Awakened or Aftermath is the only guild in PoF we clear golems, draco, and CT in like 30-45 minutes. When CSG is in there it's a god damn nightmare, wipes on wipes, golems running around DTing people, mobs brought into summoning range aggroing everything it's a complete joke. I didn't know we could go to some time bank for justice.

Also one wipe to Eashen caused you to be delayed 90 minutes?!
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:32 PM
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Awakened could have not been there in the first place (left zone after conceding)
Awakened could have waited to pull Feshlak till after CSG had killed Eashen and vacated the space
Awakened could have done the two above on the countless times variations of this has happened in the past
Awakened could have been more open to not have 2 guilds kill 95% of the raid content for months and months on end.

You are right. After the train, Awakened couldn't do much - damage already done, a lot of our casual people wasted 90 minutes of their time, and Awakened doesn't really have anything to offer to recompense that - they don't "own" any content they could give us, and as Eratani says they are not allowed to help us with Eashen.
wasted 90 minutes of your time on a weekend afternoon !?!? you just got 100+ players suspended from this game for 30 days after you got free stuff!......awakened had the power to give you virtually uncontested content they rotated with aftermath.

But having the staff rewrite the rules to give the harshest penalty of the velious era after the infraction occurred benefits you more i guess huh.... the rewriting of the rules after the fact to make it unnecessary to reach out and also increase the duration of the penalty is the most messed up part of this situation
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:29 PM
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Wasted more than 90 minutes of your own time trying to split triples the other day that no one interfered with.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:32 PM
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Wasted more than 90 minutes of your own time trying to split triples the other day that no one interfered with.
Pretty sure that was AG and nothing really to do with the current itteration of CSG.
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Old 03-01-2018, 02:09 PM
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Wasted more than 90 minutes of your own time trying to split triples the other day that no one interfered with.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:12 PM
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This is kinda funny. In the “healthy raid scene” thread I mentioned that if you ever have a problem with PS just talk to us we will do whatever it takes to make things right, we are reasonable, and a 9 month old mistake got brought up and our guild got dragged thru the RNF mud. Now I see you guys making the same statement and are surprised that you are getting the same kind of response.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:14 PM
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What more should we have done?
Probably should have conceded one of your rotated mobs. You trained a guild while killing a target--thats about the most egregious offense that can be made regardless of whether it was a mistake or not.

If you train someone, and don't reach out to them and make a deal to squash the petition, expect to be petitioned. How long has it worked like this now, three years now?
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:23 PM
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Probably should have conceded one of your rotated mobs. You trained a guild while killing a target--thats about the most egregious offense that can be made regardless of whether it was a mistake or not.

If you train someone, and don't reach out to them and make a deal to squash the petition, expect to be petitioned. How long has it worked like this now, three years now?
You dont raid Argh, I dont expect you understand how things work. Guilds do not offer things until they are told 'we are going to petition this', its not the other way around. Maybe in some dramatically different situations, people reach out before even told a petition will occur but 99.9999999% of the time when GuildB has a grievance to file with GuildA, its GuildB who lets GuildA know "pay up or else".

Dont let your blind hatred for me bc of FAP blind your bias opinion though Argh, stay classy :P
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