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[loramin]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

spoiler: not gonna happen in a million years

Exactly. Our government is no more likely to (meaningfully) crack down on businesses hiring illegal immigrants than they are to (meaningfully) reduce illegal immigration.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. There is reality, and then there's conservative fantasy land and liberal fantasy land. The idea of our government truly trying to stop businesses from hiring illegal immigrants isn't a "reality" idea, is a liberal fantasy land idea, just like the idea that we can stop (or even put a truly meaningful dent) in illegal immigration is a conservative fantasy land idea.

there are more illegal immigrants working in California than there is in non coastal states combined.

only in a liberal bubble would you think that this is the case everywhere else.

I moved from california to a non costal state and on the regular a white person fixes every damn thing I call to have someone come out and fix. That goes from gutters to sewage to carpentry

do the same in california and its mexican mexican mexican mexican.

the businesses are actually not as much as a problem as YOU the individual who hires day laborers on the regular.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the businesses are actually not as much as a problem as YOU the individual who hires day laborers on the regular.

Is that a fact or just the usual fear-mongering? I'd love to see some statistics (especially since you now seem to have embraced them).

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin;

2627730]Originally Posted by loramin View Post
Also, immigrants tend to have seen some shit; you don't uproot your entire life and leave the only country you've ever known because things are going great, you leave because everyone around you is starving to death, the government is torturing/raping/murdering everyone, etc. That kind of psychic damage would make any person, anywhere, more violent. But if you have the empathy to say "hey people with shitty lives, why not come live with us where it's less shitty" you should have empathy to understand that people coming from those shitty lives will have a bit more mental shit to deal with.

1. you make a lot of assumptions here about the quality of person who is "fleeing" their country. Assumptions that this statistic in OP prove dead ass wrong.
2. you dont account for the fact that people "flee" mexico simply because there is money to be made and they want more of it to send home.
3. why should I care about someone who is fleeing their own country, that wants to come here, so you can SHAPE MY COUNTRY to better suit the person who couldnt even figure out how to fix their own?

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I will say though is that, since we don't have a magic wand, the next best way to end reduce illegal immigration would be to ... wait for it ... allow more legal immigration.

it is actually possible to reduce illegal immigration, it is not possible to increase policing like you suggest, because the left is activly trying to reduce policing.

And yes, literally my point is to increase legal immigration, so is Drumphs.

[JurisDictum]

Once Latinos get on the anti-Immigration bandwagon (i give em 10 years) we'll be fine...they have generational problems too. It's not going to be white snobs leading the way on this one. It also can't be people that look like they may be a member of a white supremacist group.

I should add there is a famous split in Marxist thinking.

Some think we need to solve the whole fucking world all at once. Others believe in the "one country at a time" approach...I like the latter.

[JurisDictum]

You have to go to the south in specific areas to find white underclass -- but it is there and real. Big on that born-again religion that's very otherworldly and rhetorically performative...very authoritarian and repressive of any that don't fit in.

There is long history of exploiting poor white people in the south. If you are a poor white kid with a southern accent, there is significant baggage there that a California middle class kid does not have.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have to go to the south in specific areas to find white underclass -- but it is there and real. Big on that born-again religion that's very otherworldly and rhetorically performative...very authoritarian and repressive of any that don't fit in.

There is long history of exploiting poor white people in the south. If you are a poor white kid with a southern accent, there is significant baggage there that a California middle class kid does not have.

pfft there are poor white people all over the country, but consistently liberals focus only on white southern culture, because deep down all of your problem really comes from that 1990's Marilyn Manson angst of being told to go to church as a white kid growing up in the suburbs and to not paint your fingernails black.

go to riverseide, its a huge whtie population of poor people, orange, outside PDX, basically ALL of northern California, all the way up to Seattle.

anywho, the truth is all socialists are just still upset about how they were treated as goths in the 90s and that's why you have so many hangups on atheism and Christianity.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been here, I've just been trying to limit my off-topic/RnF posting after realizing how true Brandolini's Law is. It's been great for my free time and sanity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



Well now I feel obligated to watch Bad Santa out of fairness. Hopefully it's on HBO/Hulu/Netflix/Amazon/...

find the cookies, lor. eat them.

[skarlorn]

i like blaks i like jews i like chinese jappies too

[mickmoranis]

its a shame people like loramin have such a hang up about race that a white person cant just increase their odds of having a tall kid by having one with a black person without having to commit to the cultural "rules" of that race.

Fun fact, libearals are racist, sexist and wont stop talking about the two non important issues.

there is 1 race, the human, there are just some that are darker than others and half of them are born with a vagina.

the great thing about earth is taht everyone can do whatever they want (despite liberals saying that you cannot)