Sky - Overseer of Air

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's see, 14 sky slots vs a total of 7-8 nobles a week if all OOAs are left up? Someone can't do the math

What math? That 7-8 >>>> 1???

I am aware there are more rotation slots than noble spawns. Its a solvable problem, any noble spawns during your 12 hour window and its yours. Any unclaimed slots can stay FFA. Over time statistics evens things out. You could have thought of this solution yourself if you had any intention of contributing to a solution instead of trolling people who are trying to find common ground.

Originally Posted by Sancta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure if you've been following this thread (sarcasm), but there is no agreement being followed right now by the looks of it. Just guilds FFAing on their previously set days and going up on other guilds days.

Yeah, its going to get ugly if people start trying to spite each other. I have everything I want from sky but I do not want to see it become the wild west. The A/A guys are right to mock casuals who cant get their act together on such an easy and obvious solution (two sky raids per day, on rotation)

Letting the world burn on noble spawns/ooa is one thing, but casual guilds are totally mad to avoid the rotation agreements. I'm glad I have what I want because this will be a shitshow

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people would leave the OOAs up, there would be sufficient nobles every week for a your day/your noble agreement. Even without the agreement there would be a lot of nobles each week which is a bigger pie for everyone to try to get a slice. Right now there is only one piece of pie and it will remain highly contested by csg/rustle/a/a since they all have to split one per week.

Killing the OOAs because guild X screwed you once might screw guild X a tiny bit but it screws all others equally. It also generates bad blood, as this thread is showing. Sky will rapidly become a free for all if people can not follow simple rules like "dont kill mobs when it isnt your day" or "leave OOAs up so a noble spawns every day."

If sky does become a free for all the weaker guilds will suffer first and one of the only prescheduled raids on p99 will be eliminated. I personally will not participate in killing OOAs. Removing a community resource because you're mad at someone is a jerk move and contributes to a lawless environment.

I'm not sure if you've been following this thread (sarcasm), but there is no agreement being followed right now by the looks of it. Just guilds FFAing on their previously set days and going up on other guilds days.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Sancta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure if you've been following this thread (sarcasm), but there is no agreement being followed right now by the looks of it. Just guilds FFAing on their previously set days and going up on other guilds days.

It's mostly AG and Rustle.

[Fasttimes]

Clearly these atrocities must stop. Send tell to jumbalaya he will help fix this.

[Fasttimes]

Rustle will agree to ydyn if it comes with an about 30k per week fee. Let us know how to collect.

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rustle will agree to ydyn if it comes with an about 30k per week fee. Let us know how to collect.

It would be helpful to see an official statement from a rustle officer about their sky/ooa/noble policy. Officers from several other guilds have weighed in to say what they will or wont do. I find it hard to believe that rustle's official position is "let the world burn, we're going when we want and killing what we want" but anything is possible.

There's a lot of anon accounts and robots in this thread muddying the waters. If you or merkk are an officer and have already posted this please quote it because I missed it.

[pogs4ever]

16 hour variance plz!

[RedXIII]

Originally Posted by pogs4ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

16 hour variance plz!

this plz. and FTE race line at isle 1.

[Savok]

There are three choices to resolve this issue:

1. YDYN. If its up in your raid window (12 hours?) then you get to kill it. Any spawns within open raid slots are considered FFA kills - you may kill Isle 1 mobs for keys so long as there is sufficient time for the Isle to respawn before any scheduled raids (6 hours?), otherwise you must buy or use corpsed keys.

2. The same as 1 above but its just FFA. No matter what time the Noble spawns you must buy keys if they Isle will not respawn in time for a scheduled raid, or used corpsed keys only.

3, Its FFA and you always have to buy/corpse keys - no killing Isle 1 mobs at all.

Option 1 best suits smaller guilds and the server as a whole - mobs get spread around all guilds plus there is a chance of some FFA spawns when no one is raiding Sky. Options 1 and 2 allow for FFA kills but I see issues with Isle 1 being killed at the wrong time (I thought X guild raided at Y time and the Isle hasn't spawned - the issue Novae is having right now) Option 3 favors the bigger guilds who can spend the pp on keys quickly, or who constantly corpse keys but it hurts other guilds who just can't compete on those terms.

[titanshub]

Originally Posted by Savok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are three choices to resolve this issue:

1. YDYN. If its up in your raid window (12 hours?) then you get to kill it. Any spawns within open raid slots are considered FFA kills - you may kill Isle 1 mobs for keys so long as there is sufficient time for the Isle to respawn before any scheduled raids (6 hours?), otherwise you must buy or use corpsed keys.

2. The same as 1 above but its just FFA. No matter what time the Noble spawns you must buy keys if they Isle will not respawn in time for a scheduled raid, or used corpsed keys only.

3, Its FFA and you always have to buy/corpse keys - no killing Isle 1 mobs at all.

Option 1 best suits smaller guilds and the server as a whole - mobs get spread around all guilds plus there is a chance of some FFA spawns when no one is raiding Sky. Options 1 and 2 allow for FFA kills but I see issues with Isle 1 being killed at the wrong time (I thought X guild raided at Y time and the Isle hasn't spawned - the issue Novae is having right now) Option 3 favors the bigger guilds who can spend the pp on keys quickly, or who constantly corpse keys but it hurts other guilds who just can't compete on those terms.

I like option 1 but the problem I see with this is that no variance means that noble spawns will remain pretty static. However, often we do not have a powerful enough force in sky to kill a noble so I wonder if that sort of thing would push the next spawns around and randomize them a bit. Maybe I am misunderstanding how it works.