80%

[heartbrand]

Love when I hear Apex members talk about how they don't let "scum" in their guild when they have for officers:

Tune: Banned on Fallen for instant camping during pvp, banned on tune for macroing tradeskills / bard instrument weapon exploit / high sunning mobs under the world to "test" them / exploiting nagafen / exploiting hoshkar / exploiting plane of sky pulling, banned on cleanse for boxing, banned on valkyrie, and banned on a ton of other chars.

HPT: banned for creating, using and distributing an undetectable MQ for P99 which he used throughout Kunark

Cyren: banned for RMT on multiple occassions, claim to fame is playing 20 hours a day to gear his alts over mains.

I could do a similar write up of dozens of members but yea guys Apex doesn't invite scum or something.

P.s I've never had any of my accounts banned, much like the officers of Ragnarok who are all still playing their original characters.

[Lasher]

Originally Posted by Symbioticforks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't disagree with you at all Vanco.

I think 5 Geared Warriors is something you would need if you didn't make people log in characters useful for Vymnn. (mainly DPS) You may have had a problem with sandbags bringing useless classes to raid. Perhaps problems coordinating successful tank switches, 5 would be a safe number for sure. I don't believe we had more than just a few primals starting out and most of us were raiding because we still needed Velious gear. A difference <Empire> may have offset by just bringing more people.

You likely had double bard groups for the majority of your clerics (we never have) Your mana pool doesn't mean much if you have sufficient sustain from either this or enough clerics being played.

I understand why Velious started with loot council coming from <Holocaust> that was the system already set in place anyway. Towards the end of <Empire> the guild was no longer progressing, and it didn't matter where gear went. I know there were SK mains who never played them at raids where they were needed on other classes, and still ended up with zero best in slot items on their main. As if gearing for progression was still in effect. It's not hard to imagine other players (those who still refuse to return to Ragnarok) or classes may have received the same treatment. It's history, just could have been handled better I think.

Those are good points. Basically it boils down to dkp and loot council appeals to different types of people for different reasons. Both are not perfect. Can loot council over look or be bias towards somenoe? Yes. Can dkp be daunting seeing people with high dkp that doesnt decay and just waiting in line for the BIS items and main switching with no penalty(heard this recently happened)? yes. I know there were empire members such as yourself who wanted dkp and i know apex members who hated dkp, there was even an officer who OOC that it was being worked on to be a little different.

Anyways, always liked you and squats and look forward to future fights. Good luck

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love when I hear Apex members talk about how they don't let "scum" in their guild when they have for officers:

Tune: Banned on Fallen for instant camping during pvp, banned on tune for macroing tradeskills / bard instrument weapon exploit / high sunning mobs under the world to "test" them / exploiting nagafen / exploiting hoshkar / exploiting plane of sky pulling, banned on cleanse for boxing, banned on valkyrie, and banned on a ton of other chars.

HPT: banned for creating, using and distributing an undetectable MQ for P99 which he used throughout Kunark

Cyren: banned for RMT on multiple occassions, claim to fame is playing 20 hours a day to gear his alts over mains.

I could do a similar write up of dozens of members but yea guys Apex doesn't invite scum or something.

P.s I've never had any of my accounts banned, much like the officers of Ragnarok who are all still playing their original characters.

Says the guy who scummed me out of a Trak BP.

[Lord Casey]

YA U FUCKIN NIG

[Slathar]

*mouse clicks inventory*
*mouse clicks pumice*
*mouse clicks bash*
*mouse clicks spells*
*keyboard turns into a wig shop*
*writes scholarly article on elf politics*

- Symbioticforks, /q'er of PvP and all around non factor.

By the way, I also am playing my day 1 character that has a BotB title unlike your guild leader and officer core.

Get fucked.

[bigjerry]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*mouse clicks inventory*
*mouse clicks pumice*
*mouse clicks bash*
*mouse clicks spells*
*keyboard turns into a wig shop*
*writes scholarly article on elf politics*

- Symbioticforks, /q'er of PvP and all around non factor.

By the way, I also am playing my day 1 character that has a BotB title unlike your guild leader and officer core.

Get fucked.

yikes

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*mouse clicks inventory*
*mouse clicks pumice*
*mouse clicks bash*
*mouse clicks spells*
*keyboard turns into a wig shop*
*writes scholarly article on elf politics*

- Symbioticforks, /q'er of PvP and all around non factor.

By the way, I also am playing my day 1 character that has a BotB title unlike your guild leader and officer core.

Get fucked.

Where my day 1 account bros at?

Fallen PST
Cyren PST
Handpartytowel aka Heather PST

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*mouse clicks inventory*
*mouse clicks pumice*
*mouse clicks bash*
*mouse clicks spells*
*keyboard turns into a wig shop*
*writes scholarly article on elf politics*

- Symbioticforks, /q'er of PvP and all around non factor.

By the way, I also am playing my day 1 character that has a BotB title unlike your guild leader and officer core.

Get fucked.

I don't know why this guy play style makes me smile. And I have been on the opposite end just an overall fun eq guy.

Still waiting on wipe to play this caca, but happy red players are enjoying red again.

[Aesop]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where my day 1 account bros at?

Fallen PST
Cyren PST
Handpartytowel aka Heather PST

Cyren reporting in

[Ames1]

Server still isn't breaking over 100 people on a sunday afternoon.


Hard pass