Fighting dragons at ToV zonein

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bring back mages.

Fucking yes^ 2 per wing call it a day.

[Daldaen]

Sirken make me a GM and I'll fix the raid scene, you won't need to bother with it ever again don't worry.

[maskedmelon]

Why not adopt something along the lines of what Detoxx had proposed to bring spawns back together when they were spread throughout the week? Everyone runs to dragons, gets FTEs and then kills them on Saturday or something.

Hell, could even do away with the 1hr time limits and just agree to a window for when dragons must die (say 3:00pm EST) CSG could spend as much of their day as they like killing trash. Could even hold hands and everyone kill dragons together, awarding loot to whichever guild had gotten the FTE if they are holding up the show for some reason (preventing vulak pull or something)

Could eliminate variance and be one big happy Mario karting family ^^

[Legday]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not adopt something along the lines of what Detoxx had proposed to bring spawns back together when they were spread throughout the week? Everyone runs to dragons, gets FTEs and then kills them on Saturday or something.

Hell, could even do away with the 1hr time limits and just agree to a window for when dragons must die (say 3:00pm EST) CSG could spend as much of their day as they like killing trash. Could even hold hands and everyone kill dragons together, awarding loot to whichever guild had gotten the FTE if they are holding up the show for some reason (preventing vulak pull or something)

Could eliminate variance and be one big happy Mario karting family ^^

That was only suggested as a one time fix to windows that were spread horribily accross 6 days.

At the moment, Rogean and pals are being very cool about resetting the server at a more classic rate, so that problem isn't one we have had for a couple of months.

The issue with waiting a until the weekend to kill everything you FTE'd during the week is that would come out to far less dragons in the long run. The good thing about killing a dragon 20 minutes after it spawns is that the 7 day +/- 8 hour timer for it to pop again starts immediately.

If a guild can't handle a dragon in the 60 minutes after it pops (already an absurd leeway given from what used to be insta-pulls), then they should try other content or pack it in. Phinny is thata way.

Seriously though, remove 1 hour and allow mages again. Casual guilds have proven the only thing they really want is for us to not try so hard. It's obviously not going to change. Insert random reason why that is pathetic <here>.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was only suggested as a one time fix to windows that were spread horribily accross 6 days.

At the moment, Rogean and pals are being very cool about resetting the server at a more classic rate, so that problem isn't one we have had for a couple of months.

The issue with waiting a until the weekend to kill everything you FTE'd during the week is that would come out to far less dragons in the long run. The good thing about killing a dragon 20 minutes after it spawns is that the 7 day +/- 8 hour timer for it to pop again starts immediately.

If a guild can't handle a dragon in the 60 minutes after it pops (already an absurd leeway given from what used to be insta-pulls), then they should try other content or pack it in. Phinny is thata way.

Seriously though, remove 1 hour and allow mages again. Casual guilds have proven the only thing they really want is for us to not try so hard. It's obviously not going to change. Insert random reason why that is pathetic <here>.

Yeah, I understood it was only proposed as a one time fix, just seemed like broader application could fix some things. The decreased dragon issue could be fixed by decreasing respawn to 6days+/-1hr. Run for dragons Friday or Saturday. Kill them on Sunday. Of course if no dragons are getting killed, then that could complicate races :3 could cut respawn down to 1day+/-5days or whatever so long as Sunday (or Saturday or whatever day was the designated kill day), so there would be no fewer dragons.

Or just hard code dragon spawns to random time on Tuesdays, or whatever other day and stipulate they must die by the EoD Sunday, or they become FFA.

Our system is already unclassic may as well make something that works for everyone.

Only issue would be Vulak with his summoning of other dragons, which really ought to just be removed because it is rarely a factor given the current environment.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I understood it was only proposed as a one time fix, just seemed like broader application could fix some things. The decreased dragon issue could be fixed by decreasing respawn to 6days+/-1hr. Run for dragons Friday or Saturday. Kill them on Sunday. Of course if no dragons are getting killed, then that could complicate races :3 could cut respawn down to 1day+/-5days or whatever so long as Sunday (or Saturday or whatever day was the designated kill day), so there would be no fewer dragons.

Or just hard code dragon spawns to random time on Tuesdays, or whatever other day and stipulate they must die by the EoD Sunday, or they become FFA.

Our system is already unclassic may as well make something that works for everyone.

Only issue would be Vulak with his summoning of other dragons, which really ought to just be removed because it is rarely a factor given the current environment.

Actually, I think vulak and his summoning of other dragons played a part in the last 3-4 vulak spawns.

[nyclin]

the raid scene on this server is fucking cancer and is literally the reason why newer games have instanced content

also daldaen for lead GM 2017, make p99 great again

[justinf1000]

I haven't been to TOV on this server yet, but this tactic sounds lame as hell.

However with an FTE timer of 1 hour, i don't really know what an alternative would be.

Good luck people!

[Detoxx]

I've tried several avenues to fix this raid scene. I am more open to anything than any other top guild leader has ever been on this server. I brought all these rotations to the table, I have advocated for a C, R, FFA system minus ToV (as it was before, the end raid zone was not included) and all have been met with resistance.

There's two top guilds right now. One is open to discussions on bettering this raid scene. The other one is hellbent on doing things their way. It takes two to tango...

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am more open to anything than any other top guild leader has ever been on this server.

You sound like Cheeto Jesus

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