Dem Debates

[Pokesan]

It's a bit of a stretch to assume Sanders would interact with Putin the same way he interacts with domestic protestors.

As for the tea party thing - not all speech is equally valuable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ronasch]

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There's 2 kinds of people in this world. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.

[Pokesan]

are you harping on the climate change thing because you disagree that's its important or because you believe he overstated the immediacy of the danger?

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

are you harping on the climate change thing because you disagree that's its important or because you believe he overstated the immediacy of the danger?

The immediacy thing. I think we need to reduce economic externalities as much as possible and eventually to 0, but even the most dire warnings from legitimate scientists puts the world at 50% uninhabitable (by land area) at around 2300 (earth is currently about 25% uninhabitable). More than likely not, any such terrible outcome wouldn't be for hundreds more if not thousands of years.

In actuality, warming will produce positive outcomes for most if not all of the 21st century. The "ideal" temperature of the planet as best we can figure is about 2 degrees C over pre-industrial levels. We're halfway there and should reach that number somewhere late 21st century. Things will only get worse than present time when we get to about 3 degrees C over pre-industrial levels, which won't happen until next century some time.

So yes, it's something we need to study much more and we need to take the right steps to not fuck up the planet, but we're far from that point and acting like chicken little about the issue and ignoring reality makes this guy a crackpot.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So yes, it's something we need to study much more and we need to take the right steps to not fuck up the planet, but we're far from that point and acting like chicken little about the issue and ignoring reality makes this guy a crackpot.

hmm whos the one acting like a child about it though? I dont see Sanders posting insessently about ONE thing that any other candidate has said... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hmm whos the one acting like a child about it though?

Originally Posted by Orruar

acting like chicken little about the issue

Do you even reading comprehension, bro?

[iruinedyourday]

You guys dont get it. Our country has been raped and pillaged by republicans and corperate greed. You just dont understand the power of marketing. Youre manipulted by what the media tells you about how your neighbors are evil and that america is some kind of unique and special place.

Europian style socialism in america? What does it get? Canada. Better working conditions, quality of life, education, health care.

None of what Bernie says requires a monk like change from the people. It requires exactly the same amount of energy that a buisness like comcast soends when it says.. Hmm yea lets set up data caps because we can do whatever we want and nobody cares. Only instead they say, shit cant price gouge people because we have a strong goverment making sure that the oeople are getting what they deserve.

Simply put, if you dont like Bernie, why do you like Hillary so much? Cus if not him, its her.

[ronasch]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys dont get it. Our country has been raped and pillaged by republicans and corperate greed. You just dont understand the power of marketing. Youre manipulted by what the media tells you about how your neighbors are evil and that america is some kind of unique and special place.

Europian style socialism in america? What does it get? Canada. Better working conditions, quality of life, education, health care.

None of what Bernie says requires a monk like change from the people. It requires exactly the same amount of energy that a buisness like comcast soends when it says.. Hmm yea lets set up data caps because we can do whatever we want and nobody cares. Only instead they say, shit cant price gouge people because we have a strong goverment making sure that the oeople are getting what they deserve.

Simply put, if you dont like Bernie, why do you like Hillary so much? Cus if not him, its her.

And the democrats are so generous, they love giving other people's money away. This is in no way defending repubs. But cmon man they're all greedy bastards. We don't have a 2 party system it's all the same party 1 just moves slower toward totalitarianism then the other

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by ronasch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the democrats are so generous, they love giving other people's money away. This is in no way defending repubs. But cmon man they're all greedy bastards. We don't have a 2 party system it's all the same party 1 just moves slower toward totalitarianism then the other

You say alm that. If you belive any if it, DO something about it. Supporting bernie sanders is doing something about it.

[ronasch]

i find it amusing how "Progressives" have hopped onto this global warming scam, when the same people (corporations) who they claim to hate, support it the most. Our biggest threat is climate change lol. A generation of fools.