Raiding in Class R

[Fael]

"Wiped" /sigh

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know after going back and reading that raid thread about pulling inny to zone; I think Bda's position is totally legit. There simply was no rule that you can't pull to the zone in. Moreover Bda and ib both declined to agree to one.

By the same token, I think any guild calling the zone in their camp is about as dumb as it gets. At any given time there tends to be a group of people from every guild involved at the zone in for what ever reason.

If bda pulled inny through another guild at the well and whiped and caused them to die then I think that would be a problem. That would be similar for example to IB hypothetically Whiping to vox twice, pulling her out of the lair and training TMO. Both causes hypothetically would be deserving of raid suspensions.

That said Good on BdA for pulling off a great pull. See what you can do when you go out and make shit happen in class FFa. You get your poor mages epic'd!

Dolic

I agree about them not being mistaken about where to pull. If a guild wasn't already there pull away. However you can't setup a camp where another guild or guilds already are. That is the rule they broke. Which honestly shouldn't be that big of a fuss. They made a mistake. They know better now.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moreover Bda and ib both declined to agree to one.

Sadad agreed on behalf of BDA and hokushin and I agreed upon it and have been observing it in all class C inny's since.

[Susvain2]

Originally Posted by Fael;1738170.

You get your poor mages epic'd!

Dolic

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[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO claims all camps as their own, nothing shall ever be pulled, thus is the will of Corova.

So... To be clear... are you claiming the following...

1. BDA was the first guild to zone into Hate.
2. No other guild had people at zone in when BDA decided to train Inny to zone in ? (I've seen the fraps this is mostly for the people you are trying to kid.)

BTW I can name some of the TMO at zone in thanks to said fraps.

Zarkanoff
Ferns
Borf
Doktyr
Portaholic
Icare wizard
Krime

There were others there as well...But can just see the tags and not the names. So you are claiming your guild zoned into Hate and established a camp on top of another guild already there.

So.. I ask again... How did BDA establish a camp at zone in when a guild that ported up first was still at zone in ? Why can't BDA follow simple rules about establishing a camp elsewhere like Sirken strongly suggested ? Why did BDA pull Innoruuk to zone in where TMO was already setup and in the process kill some people from other guilds such as IB and Taken who were corpse recovering there ?

[Lictor]

Oh lord, is lazie back to just confuse the shit out of everyone with his incoherent dribble?

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Lictor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh lord, is lazie back to just confuse the shit out of everyone with his incoherent dribble?

You mean the clear and concise truth ?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So... To be clear... are you claiming the following...

1. BDA was the first guild to zone into Hate.
2. No other guild had people at zone in when BDA decided to train Inny to zone in ? (I've seen the fraps this is mostly for the people you are trying to kid.)

BTW I can name some of the TMO at zone in thanks to said fraps.

Zarkanoff
Ferns
Borf
Doktyr
Portaholic
Icare wizard
Krime

There were others there as well...But can just see the tags and not the names. So you are claiming your guild zoned into Hate and established a camp on top of another guild already there.

So.. I ask again... How did BDA establish a camp at zone in when a guild that ported up first was still at zone in ? Why can't BDA follow simple rules about establishing a camp elsewhere like Sirken strongly suggested ? Why did BDA pull Innoruuk to zone in where TMO was already setup and in the process kill some people from other guilds such as IB and Taken who were corpse recovering there ?

It's like a disease.

IB and Taken wiped at the ramp, TMO set up camp in the same area but camped out when the train came back. You can't have all the camps, your raid force was perched next to the Inny clusterfuck looking to snipe an FTE so BDA claimed the entrance for our pull.

That's not interference. We chose to remain at the entrance while the 3 other guilds chose to move up to near Inny's room. IB, Taken, and TMO gave up their rights to the entrance. We claimed it, we pulled Inny, we killed Inny. TMO having stragglers at the entrance doesn't mean you lay claim to it, it just means your raidforce was fractured because you made a bad decision trying to poach an FTE with a massive train whipping through the zone.

Knock off the disenfranchised crybaby routine.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's like a disease.

IB and Taken wiped at the ramp, TMO set up camp in the same area but camped out when the train came back. You can't have all the camps, your raid force was perched next to the Inny clusterfuck looking to snipe an FTE so BDA claimed the entrance for our pull.

That's not interference. We chose to remain at the entrance while the 3 other guilds chose to move up to near Inny's room. IB, Taken, and TMO gave up their rights to the entrance. We claimed it, we pulled Inny, we killed Inny. TMO having stragglers at the entrance doesn't mean you lay claim to it, it just means your raidforce was fractured because you made a bad decision trying to poach an FTE with a massive train whipping through the zone.

Knock off the disenfranchised crybaby routine.

I mean this is nice spin but incorrect on a lot of levels. Just admit ya made a mistake and move on. It's not that big a deal.

[Fael]

Chest.

Just agree that it's a dumb rule to say that guilds have to spread out in hate to designate certain areas as their camp. There is basically only one or two areas and sane guild would set up a camp in hate on a full repop.