Catherins attempt at lawyering

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are the leaders of the premier guilds. ALL OF YOU, need to be held accountable for the toxicity that underpins our server's raid scene.

Each of you fire of petitions based on false assumptions on a regular basis. And whatever guild is being accused, whether its BDA, Taken, IB, TMO, whoever, is attacked by the rest of the sharks in a way that ignores the truth of things and perpetuates false assumptions.

I do agree however. This has become "a circus and it's been like that for 4 years." The server is fucked up in this regard, and everyone does need to "Grow up." And it starts with you, with catherine, getsome, TMO leaders. You guys are the leaders. You guys need to stop with this petty bull shit.

Dolic

I'm about done with this thread, but here's my thoughts on your rebuttal.

The raid scene toxicity that underpins this server is a byproduct of a raiding style that was developed at the genesis of p99 and continues thrive today in class C guilds. You're saying every guild leader should be cognizant of this an do what they can to reduce this toxicity right? Class R has been doing this. We've done it for almost a year now.

What would stop BDA and Taken from killing every 3rd Trakanon or VS that comes through Class R? We could be creating an arms race in Class R but we're not. More good has come from the class R rotation than anything else ever has on this server. I believe in a harmonious raid scene and I've put my money where my mouth is.

When TMO was suspended years ago we opened up content for the masses. We think that's how raiding should be. Not stomping over every tiny guild for the thrill of the hunt whether you need the loot or not. Not saying "oh even though that guild has 40 people there let's see if we can rush in and snake it out from under them" as opposed to maybe having some honor deciding that maybe it's not cool to leapfrog 40 people.

You want to talk petty? Our last petitions against TMO were for the Dinacarl train. That's the last issue I can think of that we actively pursued against your guild. Petty is more inline with Unbrella browbeating Derubael until he cracked and issued BDA a Class R Nagafen suspension over an FFA incident even after Sirken said the entire issue was already resolved. That's petty.

I'm doing everything I personally can do to help foster a less toxic raid environment regardless of the daily slings and arrows that are lobbed at me and my guild on the daily. If you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you. I'm doing my part. If you want to make changes look no further than IB and TMO leadership.

[Sckrilla]

Damn, it's all so clear now! You truly are the savior of P99, Chest! I completely understand now. Thank you for all you have done for the raiding scene and Class R guilds alike!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Sckrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, it's all so clear now! You truly are the savior of P99, Chest! I completely understand now. Thank you for all you have done for the raiding scene and Class R guilds alike!

Thank you for your snarky response. Dolic wants change, I explained my mindset and the actions I've taken to help bring that change to the server. This isn't about being a savior, and I'm not, every guild (and their leadership) that adheres to the rotation is doing their part to change the culture but the upper echelons of raiding are still cutthroat and vicious just like it was 4 years ago.

The main point of contention is where C and R overlap. Our disparate mindsets are forced to coexist and drama happens. Keep the current ruleset and eliminate the FFA portion with full repops being the FFA option. It would help the health of this server massively.

[Cecily]

I think the server's health is fantastic compared to what it was previously. A-team has epics, you know?

[Susvain2]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT. AM I ON CRAZY PILLS

DEAR CATHERIN AND CHEST

if TMO member was on Sev spawn point and Sev spawned - TMO would have been suspended/forfeited the mob

BUT, the member moved and was with everyone else in the correct spot when Sev spawned. So NO HARM = NO FOUL. what the fuck how is this thread so long how are you two this insane. What is hard to understand. Holy fuck. No one in TMO is trying to get over on ya'll by standing on Sev spawn point, that person would get reprimanded and in trouble, and would cost the guild more trouble than killing Sev is worth

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the server's health is fantastic compared to what it was previously. A-team has epics, you know?

I'm not sure if that's the barometer of server health but it's a start. Everyone getting to experience content is a good thing.

[Susvain2]

holy fucking nerds.

listen, essentially we (staff) are saying the same thing. if nothing pops i obviously dont care where people are, because no harm no foul. but if the mob pops and you have trackernerds on the spawn spot, their trackernerd will/should get aggro, and as such they would be breaking the "trackers can't FTE" rule.

its really getting ridiculous the way some of you are picking apart staff posts to benefit yourselves. all of the raiding guilds need to stop trying to game the system and play the game within the rules, or you're gonna have a bad time.

<3
Sirks

oh look! Sirken had said basically the same exact thing as i had said! This was truly insane on Catherin to rule lawyer this. Made no sense. This Catherin creature needs to have "its" head examined

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Petty is more inline with Unbrella browbeating Derubael until he cracked and issued BDA a Class R Nagafen suspension over an FFA incident even after Sirken said the entire issue was already resolved. That's petty.

I am convinced you continue to phrase this way to intentionally drive me insane. Sirken not only helped to set up this meeting, helping to choose a date and time as well as being on the phone with Unbrella when we made the decision to attempt to mediate their dispute, and was also present for the entire discussion, being an integral part of the final decision to remove BDA from a RNagafen. Clearly being "browbeaten" when we are asked all of one time to set this up while working out another dispute involving TMO.

For the sake of my sanity please refrain from incorrectly conveying these events in the future.

[Sckrilla]

That spinculture tho!

[runlvlzero]

I think this could be all solved by spawning an NPC named Carson Mccabe at each encounter and all participants would need to pay 10,000 RMT points (pp peices) to the NPC for a lotto ticket. Then he would despawn and 'a dealer' would spawn and they would each turn in their lotto tickets (each ticket would have a unique #) and the one ticket that won would dictate which guild gets to engage the merbs and there would be a despawn of 'a dealer' and then a 10 minute countdown which would allow the other guilds time to gtfotw before engaging the merbs.