Class XP Penalties - Page 17

Glenzig · #**161** 08-27-2014, 07:25 PM

I've said it already, but, I'm all for lifting the hybrid penalty early if the devs decide they want to. I just don't think it will make the impact that you think it will make. People pack into dungeons because that's where the best loot typically is, and the XP rates are better than outdoor zones. They even discriminate as to which dungeons at certain levels are better. There are a lot of dungeons that are almost completely unused. Befallen is a good example of this. One of the best Zems in the game, but no real chance for good sellable loot. I really honestly think that if they go ahead and lift the hybrid penalty early, its just going to be more of the same dungeon groups with a ranger instead of 2 rogues. There would probably be more rangers soloing in outdoor zones, but I can't see why people would all of a sudden be clamoring to get in a group with them. Sorry I just do t see your argument being that valid.
That being said. I would support hybrid penalties being lifted early. But I'm not going to stew over it if they aren't.

Daywolf · #**162** 08-27-2014, 07:42 PM

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I've said it already, but, I'm all for lifting the hybrid penalty early if the devs decide they want to. I just don't think it will make the impact that you think it will make. People pack into dungeons because that's where the best loot typically is, and the XP rates are better than outdoor zones. They even discriminate as to which dungeons at certain levels are better. There are a lot of dungeons that are almost completely unused. Befallen is a good example of this. One of the best Zems in the game, but no real chance for good sellable loot. I really honestly think that if they go ahead and lift the hybrid penalty early, its just going to be more of the same dungeon groups with a ranger instead of 2 rogues. There would probably be more rangers soloing in outdoor zones, but I can't see why people would all of a sudden be clamoring to get in a group with them. Sorry I just do t see your argument being that valid.
That being said. I would support hybrid penalties being lifted early. But I'm not going to stew over it if they aren't.

I pref xp over loot, myself. It's not like I can't just go to EC and buy the gear I actually need. And again, people packed into just a small number of zones, this is not the norm, there is a reason, which I've addressed. If we had a pop like as on early live, this problem would be screaming out at you. This only retards population growth. Well as long as you are happy getting your loots in the over camped dungeons with a low pop server, but too bad this server wasn't more balanced to retain more of a population.

Glenzig · #**163** 08-27-2014, 08:27 PM

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I pref xp over loot, myself. It's not like I can't just go to EC and buy the gear I actually need. And again, people packed into just a small number of zones, this is not the norm, there is a reason, which I've addressed. If we had a pop like as on early live, this problem would be screaming out at you. This only retards population growth. Well as long as you are happy getting your loots in the over camped dungeons with a low pop server, but too bad this server wasn't more balanced to retain more of a population.

I agree with you. I favor XP more than loot. But it appears that we are in the minority.

Daywolf · #**164** 08-28-2014, 12:00 AM

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I agree with you. I favor XP more than loot. But it appears that we are in the minority.

Rlly? because with say a lvl20 ranger, un-twinked, solo, I can make more than 1kpp in an evening, in outdoor zones, and even getting a bit of xp enough to be headed towards leveling. Even with a lvl30 in unrest basement, nothing remotely close to that.... or even lvl40. Trade secret, but 1kpp sometimes more, with opportunity for far more, no duping involved. Soooo.... maybe the vast majority of people that play this game never really played it before? I mean if waiting long periods of time to get into a group and then random for a 100pp item once or twice an evening is more important than xp, I'm at a loss for why so many players flock to dungeons, at least enough to overload every dungeon around faydark. I know there are quest items... but usually those just rot.... Rlly? they are there for the loot? I'll buy some of that loot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glenzig · #**165** 08-28-2014, 08:34 AM

I'd hate to have seen your response if I had disagreed.

Xadion · #**166** 08-28-2014, 08:39 AM

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Sooo… now that everyone agrees the xp penalties should be removed we can discuss the mechanics. I have this faded distant memory of all the hybrids getting a level or two when the penalty was removed as they kept their current XP but their XP table was changed. Is this how it worked? Is this how it should work?

Personally I would rather have my level remain unchanged when the penalty is removed.

I am sure the nilb-elithia patch police can find it- but I don't think or remember getting the penalty exp back- that would have been literally like 8+ levels for a 50+ player- we did get exp back and what I do remember (about 20-40% of a level) given back because something was not calculated correctly, but I could be wrong- but I most deff remember reading something and then logging on with more exp than yesterday... I was also a human SK on live from April 99 til GoD/OOW era

Rattle Squirrell · #**167** 08-28-2014, 09:46 AM

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I'd hate to have seen your response if I had disagreed.

LOL I was thinking the exact same thing

bahaha

fadetree · #**168** 08-28-2014, 10:14 AM

If they agreed to remove the penalties early I would not care if they gave me 'extra' exp or not, as long as I didn't lose any relative position to the the level I'm in.

Rattle Squirrell · #**169** 08-28-2014, 10:15 AM

18 page post.......wonder if a Dev or something will ever chime in and stop us from spinning our wheels.

Tell us it sounds like a good idea, or just tell us to fuck off they don't care it's their server.

Either way lol

Daldaen · #**170** 08-28-2014, 10:16 AM

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18 page post.......wonder if a Dev or something will ever chime in and stop us from spinning our wheels.

Tell us it sounds like a good idea, or just tell us to fuck off they don't care it's their server.

Either way lol

I'm sure a dev has chimed in on the 10+ posts identical to this in the past 3-4 years.