Chardok AoE Groups and the Rules

[Duncon]

I played on a team PvP (TZ I think) server and item loot was removed before or during Velious as I never played long enough to see the next expansion.

[Juevento]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

August 2004 Patch



Item loot was removed after LDoN when people could put no drop augments in everything to prevent item loot all together...

Not Kunark. Not even close.

Ok so it was June of 2000 shortly after Kunark.

"As we announced earlier this week, due to the number of people specifying interest in "coin-only" loot on Vallon Zek, versus those wishing to retain item- loot, we have implemented "coin-only" looting rules for PvP combat on Vallon Zek."

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000622.html

Edit: looks like TZ was changed to coin only back in February of 2000. So I stand by my statement.

[Ele]

Who remembers the monk sit-in protest?

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[Daldaen]

Wat? Concussion should remove aggro even if it resist. Atleast it did during PoP.

Time to investimagate.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wat? Concussion should remove aggro even if it resist. Atleast it did during PoP.

Time to investimagate.

To the Research Mobile!

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the Research Mobile!

Eh I dunno, seems silly to even investigate. Think about it this way:

Do melee generate hate on swings that miss -- yes
Do casters generate hate on spells that resist -- yes

Ergo, concussion should reduce aggro even if resist. Aggro things factor in before resist check does. And for all I know it may function like that on this server... But it's a pointless spell for most purposes during Kunark since people can mallet or puppet strings on mobs that matter, and mobs that don't matter you aren't going to be burning so hard to pull aggro. But from 2003:

Graffe 2003

Conclusion: I can now hope to conclude that, without a doubt, the concussion spell works even when resisted, to the full extent. This question should be answered for all wizards now and forever, without need for dispute. I intend to post screens/logs to amend the validity of this test, should it be needed.

[Tuljin]

Its a pain to test and not really worth it. I've been the only wizard on small sub-12 man raids many times and I've survived agro to finish off a boss thanks to rune and some awesome patch heals. With the 32k Hp mobs its easy to just start ripping lures at 50% or so and you'll be fine. On larger raids 18+ it changes a bit cause hate is spread out over more toons and its easier to be high on the hate list and catch agro, but still mobs drop fast enough its not too much of an issue. In dungeons I use it all the time.

[Daldaen]

I'm sorry, I don't see Team99. I see FFA PvP R99...

Correct me if I'm wrong - Vallon and Tallon were both teams servers right? DE/Troll/Ogre/Iksar v Erud/Barb/Human v Half/High/Wood Elf v Gnome/Dwarf/Halfling?

[Kender]

back to the original topic at hand after the derailment.

I'm going to ask the questin everyone wants to know the answer too...

Did Tooty get his pipe?

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Tooty get his pipe?

Dirty