Dumbest Rule EVER

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Bben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chest tells GM ,"Something needs to be done, BDA can't get a kill to save our lives, TMO owns us! Our guild will never see loot at this rate!"

GM says, "OK, Carebear rule incoming!"

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=131586 tells a different story.

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Hokushin

On behalf of IB I'd like to apologize for the draco "KS", there was a misunderstanding with the FTE shout, the corpse was never looted though to my knowledge when the mistake was realized.

It was also to my understanding via our Skype conversation that the punishment for Fay was a 1 time settlement of a loot deletion only, due to the circumstances.

Thank you for all of your hard work investigating these issues, hopefully they will not happen again.

Vs.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow

How about this, we each knock off the unproductive snark and address the issue at hand. This will allow me to explain the fundamental differences between the two classes and it will save you 10 minutes of crafting a response that I don't even read.

I'll give it the 'ol college try and talk to TMO leadership right here in this thread, they just have to post. I await their thought out position regarding this situation.

That, I would imagine is why certain guilds get issues resolved quickly while others do not.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vs.



That, I would imagine is why certain guilds get issues resolved quickly while others do not.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...10&postcount=2

[khanable]

I think the issue with Dolj was they say the "left the zone" and came back in, but the reality was they wiped to maestro, and then trained Divinity into wiping when they came back up. So that's not exactly porting out and then porting back in..

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the issue with Dolj was they say the "left the zone" and came back in, but the reality was they wiped to maestro, and then trained Divinity into wiping when they came back up. So that's not exactly porting out and then porting back in..

Yea ok since that is answered.
Than they deserve the ban than.

But for real (not lies) if the people do zone out an back in that should be a legit kill. This needs to be clarified for some people.
Even Chest a big leader in the raid discussions thinks it is instant DQ/BAN if you have more than 2 in zone. Than Sirken in his ban said "They did not clear ". Meaning they did not zone out an clear the zone? Which would of been legit kill than right?

I think these rules should be clarified an posted better so everyones on the same page. It would clear a lot of headaches.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chest, we agree! Mark this day!

look, i agree that letting tracking engage/stall/pull is stupid, but removing that rule doesn't really fix anything. If that got changed the next step would be bard pullers at the agreed upon location so it would just be a foot race

Originally Posted by Turp_SmokinPurp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea ok since that is answered.
Than they deserve the ban than.

But for real (not lies) if the people do zone out an back in that should be a legit kill. This needs to be clarified for some people.
Even Chest a big leader in the raid discussions thinks it is instant DQ/BAN if you have more than 2 in zone. Than Sirken in his ban said "They did not clear ". Meaning they did not zone out an clear the zone? Which would of been legit kill than right?

I think these rules should be clarified an posted better so everyones on the same page. It would clear a lot of headaches.

I didn't agree with it being a ban, but that's just how the rule has been enforced.


My solution to fix all this shit is two fold.

1) remove the FFA cycle of mobs, make it just Class C then Class R.
2) Let each class dictate how they want to handle their mobs

class R will continue doing their rotations and monitoring ourselves and class C can drop the gloves and train/ks/lie/cheat/steal for their mobs

[Bben]

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lol

[khanable]

There was definitely discussion about leaving and re-entering a plane, but it didn't end with a "yes it's okay" or "no, don't do it" type answer. It could perhaps be revisited, but I wouldn't tempt fate by trying it in the mean time.

[Bben]

like the post says, dumbest rule ever....... i don't care about suspended from raids, i'd do it all over again, shouldn't be a rule saying if a guild is legit clearing the plane, just for drops, and Meastro just happens to spawn, means we have no chance at even attempting the mob or we get suspended.......wtf.....just wtf.....how is that fair to the new guilds, oh your not allowed to attack this mob cause it happened to spawn while you were doing a raid.....might as well turn this into warcraft, give everyone their own instances, and no competition ever again.....WARCRAFT CAREBEAR


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[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Bben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

like the post says, dumbest rule ever....... i don't care about suspended from raids, i'd do it all over again, shouldn't be a rule saying if a guild is legit clearing the plane, just for drops, and Meastro just happens to spawn, means we have no chance at even attempting the mob or we get suspended.......wtf.....just wtf.....how is that fair to the new guilds, oh your not allowed to attack this mob cause it happened to spawn while you were doing a raid.....might as well turn this into warcraft, give everyone their own instances, and no competition ever again.....WARCRAFT CAREBEAR

That rule was put in place because power guilds were farming the planes 24/7 when the mobs were in window. Planar armor is now much more accessible to the general population.

Socking in game is not the solution.