ninja looting or no?

[Locust]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for pointing put that I left out a qualifier in my previous post, however BDA being one of several guilds who campaigned for a more casual raid scene doesn't change the fact that they were the largest and most visible.

It's cool you completely ignore the hypocrisy of BDA campaigning for casual relaxed raid scene then turning around and doing the exact same thing TMO did to them to an unguilded enchanter.

And the fact that the mob is technically FTE doesn't change the fact that steamrolling some unguilded noob who was there first is a pretty shitty way to gear out enchanter alt no.13440303 especially when you've been lobbying for a more relaxed and considerate raid environment.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

It's not hypocritical to play by the agreed upon rules, even if they aren't the exact rules you wanted to play by.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

It's not hypocritical to play by the agreed upon rules, even if they aren't the exact rules you wanted to play by.

That's fair however if I had just led a campaign ostensibly to lessen server greed and spread access to raid content and epics, I probably wouldn't have rolled over some unguilded server noobie who was there first just to gear out an alt.

But hey that's me, I don't base my self worth off pixels.

[arsenalpow]

Except VT isn't a queue system. How could BDA have cut in a line that never existed in the first place. We don't monopolize VT, we only kill her when someone needs the epic piece which is completely different from the TMO stance of killing things because fuck everyone else. Saraya didn't get this VT, maybe he/she gets the next one (assuming the suspension is lifted someday) or the one after that.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except VT isn't a queue system. How could BDA have cut in a line that never existed in the first place. We don't monopolize VT, we only kill her when someone needs the epic piece which is completely different from the TMO stance of killing things because fuck everyone else. Saraya didn't get this VT, maybe he/she gets the next one (assuming the suspension is lifted someday) or the one after that.

Yes, we know VT isn't a queue system. Thanks for referencing arbitrary mob designations.

I'm just saying that in this scenario:

1. unguilded chanter was there first.
2. BDA chanter shows up second.
3. Mob pops and despite unguilded chanter telling BDA that he has people coming, they kill it anyways for someone's alt.

And especially after so many proclamations of "it's just a game", complaints about hardcores, their greed and "not having lives", after years of losing mobs to TMO because they mobilized larger forces quicker, I probably would have given the guy a little leeway or come back for it another time.

Glad you were able to bully some server noobs and get another alt his epic!!

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's fair however if I had just led a campaign ostensibly to lessen server greed and spread access to raid content and epics, I probably wouldn't have rolled over some unguilded server noobie who was there first just to gear out an alt.

But hey that's me, I don't base my self worth off pixels.

Not that this has much to do with anything, but just so you know Pricilla is not "an alt," she is a main enchanter and one of a core group of German players who have proven themselves to be a valuable asset to our guild's early-morning raiding time and time again. On top of being really good players, they're all really great human beings.

[SyanideGas]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKc7f0k_g9w

The real story.

[Stonecrush]

Didn't we already go over that being a douche and ninja looting is a bad idea? It doesn't matter how you slice it or try to make it go your way.

You get more friends by being nice than being a doucher.

Also it is just a game. Stop making it out like this is life and death, that ninja looting will pay bills and put food on the table.

[Duckwalk]

Priscilla disagrees with you -"I was there for quite some time. Not before her but as u all understand there is no waiting on thease mobs . I lost both vessel and verina to others before that were faster to muster a force. Did i go and ninjaed ?"

Ill leave it to TMO to link one of the many RnF post in which BDA cries about TMO stealing FTE, having more numbers than them or being no-life losers for mobilizing faster.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Priscilla disagrees with you -"I was there for quite some time. Not before her but as u all understand there is no waiting on thease mobs . I lost both vessel and verina to others before that were faster to muster a force. Did i go and ninjaed ?"

Ill leave it to TMO to link one of the many RnF post in which BDA cries about TMO stealing FTE, having more numbers than them or being no-life losers for mobilizing faster.

You're probably misunderstanding what it is we're "crying about" when we "cry about TMO stealing FTE." Things like "monks being used as limited-allotment trackers on Inny/VS so they can pull him as soon as he spawns while the rest of us are using rangers" (regardless of which side you take in that argument) are very different from "steamrolling" issues. I'm pretty new to the guild, so maybe there was something before my time, but as far as I know there has never been a single instance of BDA having an insufficient force to kill a mob standing at the mob's feet waiting for more to come and someone else brings a sufficient force and takes the kill and we get mad about it. If there has, it was a long time ago and not really relevant anymore anyway.


Editor's note: Monks were never used to pull VS but everyone clearly knows what i'm talking about please

[Rourk]

Keep on arguing that hypothetical scenario. As many have said, Saraya broke the rules. End of story.

VT spawn is totally representative of every level of raiding here on P99.