[Poll by Post] Red99: A short questionnaire for our Blue community members

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still sucks getting jumped by anyone regardless of level you when you are already actively engaged with a mob. perhaps i'm just whining, though -- i preferred to solo when i played red, and that issue wouldn't have been so bad if i had grouped more.

still, though -- back in the day on Zek servers on live it was considered very poor taste to jump someone who was actively engaged with an EXP mob. different if its a good named or a raid mob, of course. but why jump an unguilded soloer fighting dar ghoul knights in LGuk? (it wasn't even FoH btw, i had an agreement worked out with Chewie) would make far more sense to try to recruit an unguilded soloer rather than potentially giving them an EXP death.

VZ was the only server on live where people waited for NPCs to be cleared before engaging. I agree with you completely on this point though; our server would be a LOT better if people weren't so cutthroat in some ways. But as the majority of classic PvP players had a different experience, it's pretty understandable that red is this way about that particular issue.

It's a pretty major difference for me, but honestly in the grand scheme of things it doesn't impact the feel of the server as much as it seemed to at first. Maybe you just get used to it. Some people like it because they say it adds yet another potential variable to the awesomeness that is pvp. I've only eaten 1-2 pve deaths from pvp this way in my time playing casually. The xp bonus probably helps.

[Kayso]

In the spirit of the request, I'm trying my best to answer without making suggestions...

If you played on Red 1999 in the past, why did you quit?

I avoided it for the longest time due to my family members not wanting to play red. Then I tried it for the exp bonus figuring the fast leveling would make playing alone ok. Turns out the exp bonus was supposedly nerfed right before I started. This is based on what I heard -- I only had the one experience and have nothing to compare it to.

What did you like about the server?

The idea of fast leveling. Given the inherent class imbalance in EQ, I think quickly getting through the lower levels where you don't have all of your abilities sounds appealing.

Would you want to play again? If not, why?

Possibly. If there is a revamp and, depending on what is implemented, I might play.

[August]

1) Your forum community for red is deplorable. Bunch of testosterone-fueled tough-guy talk. It exists in blue server chat too, but I don't go to red chat. So, I only see the posts from Red on the blue forums, which is filled with these people. My interpretation of the red community is based off of these posts. People in this thread are definitely not reversing my thoughts about this.

Just FYI, this is yet again another 'play red' on the blue forum. I wish it would stop.

2) EQ PvP was never good. I played RZ & SZ on live and preferred SZ 100% more, and I still hated it enough to quit once I got my wiz to 60.

3) I would much rather help people than hurt people. I have 0 desire to gank someone or to steal someones camp via PvP. If I wanted to PvP I'd play a game explicitly designed as such. I am here to relive my classic days, not get angry over a griefer or to ruin someone else's day.

There is a reason EQ PVP was pretty much never successful. Not sure what we're going for here.

[Castigate]

For me there isn't really anything compelling about red that would make me go there.
It isn't a fresh new server.
Its population is generally at least 5 times lower than blue.
I may be wrong on this one as I don't truly know red mechanics, but as an Enchanter I'm pretty sure that I'd end up somewhat gimped by my stuns and AoE mezzes affecting group members?
While I could probably learn to work around that, why not just wait for T99 instead to answer all 3 of my issues?
Above all though for me at least, right now I just don't have the time. Maybe in a few weeks when the semester ends if I don't feel like leveling another alt on blue and the pop keeps rising I might try red out.

I should add that I am actually interested in EQ pvp, but R99 has just never felt like it brought anything to the table that would make me go there, hell I don't even really mind playing a different class.

[SCB]

If you played on Red 1999 in the past, why did you quit?

I played for like twenty minutes once when blue was down.

What did you like about the server?
Global OOC is pretty cool. XP was really fast, but again, it was like twenty minutes.

Would you want to play again?
I'm always tempted to try red. I probably wouldn't commit to it fully, and can only really play EQ in spurts every few weeks, but the fast xp helps mitigate that. I love PVP in general.


Going to answer the below because I basically have never experienced what red is actually like. I've never even fought anyone, because every zone I was in was empty at the time.

If you have never played on Red 99, what has kept you away?
First, some background: I exclusively play PVP servers in every MMO but EQ. I play some F2P MMOs purely to PVP (ToR, Rift). League of Legends is my third favorite PC game of all time, so I'm used to absolutely shitty communities, and trash talk doesn't bug me.

That said, Red seems to be full of sociopaths. What they seem to want isn't even PVP really, it's just an excuse to be a dickbag to people. Sure they describe epic fights at dragons and whatnot (which sounds cool), but let's be real for a minute. Just look at the dick-waving in this thread - it's like they can't help themselves.

You might be able to make EQ PVP fun. I don't know. I know it doesn't seem fun, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Teams would go a long way there. House rules and non-classic tuning would go even further. That said, I don't think you can make that community anything I'd want to be a part of.

[Ahldagor]

If you have never played on Red 99, what has kept you away?

that there isn't permanent death for a character if killed by another player. i like pvp if it has a huge punishment factor otherwise it's just blue where people can do more than bombard you with text.

[GnashingOfTeeth]

played, was ganked 3x by the same lovely, will never go back. bye.

[raptorak]

I've played the server for one month and gotten to level 50. So far it has been great but I have three problems with the server:

1) Exp is in my opinion too fast right now. People are getting 1-40 way too fast. Need to nerf group exp in half like originally planned because now if you go to bed, all your friends will be 10 levels higher than you. Also right now soloing is a bad use of your time.

2) Twinks are griefing younger players and near impossible to kill, would like to see a 46+ requirement on epics and funghi tunic as well as perhaps a resist cap depending on level.

3) Not enough GM action on training, if it is indeed illegal on the server. "Deleted", an iksar necro, has been griefing and training groups in CoM for days. If that is legit behaviour then fair enough.

[tekniq]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've played the server for one month and gotten to level 50. So far it has been great but I have three problems with the server:

2) Twinks are griefing younger players and near impossible to kill, would like to see a 46+ requirement on epics and funghi tunic as well as perhaps a resist cap depending on level.

You really have to get out of your "blue" mind state on red. You have to accept the fact there you will get griefed and you will run into twinks. That is why people play red. Nothing is handed to you...if you're getting griefed in unrest and you looking to exp, go find another zone or log off. You can't expect to be hand fed and have an easy fun road on this server. Accept what you can't control, and do something about it if you can control it.

[Pudge]

Ya. Level requirement on epics is classic. The quest mobs wouldn't even respond until you were 50. Would just eat quest pieces. Need to stop these epic level 12 rogues..