Guys, TMO is still killing dragons...

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

love how quick they are to qq when they got the rotation

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Originally Posted by Striiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I propose that we all agree to not log out in zones with target pops imminent and to mandate that guild members in the zone (other than trackers) not be involved in the engage however that got nowhere.. Perhaps we can get some agreement on this one point as a start? The windows are 16 hours so I am sure that members can resist killing Drolvarg #420 for a short period of time for example. Trackers can easily see who is in zone and check combat logs to see if those people are involved with heals, fighting, etc so that should be sufficient. This would be something all guilds can agree upon and we would not need to drag staff into it. If they get involved, it can be a lot harsher a policy than is wanted.

TMO had it very clear to members not to be in the zone during VS hours exping. An I am pretty sure there was 0 TMO exping during the window. If there was a few at the zone in ( for sure not a force we only had 25 or so total in the end) they was there because TMO had just got done doing draco, was moving to setup for Fay and VS and people buffing etc and re camping. An that would of been 5 people max.

I believe all guilds going for FFA targets like Trak/VS/SEV are doing this? Or should be. No groups exping can just go in an engage, I thought this was already a thing?

So say that your change goes into effect, the guilds must camp outside the zone? still would of been the same result.
Or as the others in this thread have said to make it so trackers cannot engage? Still TMO mobilized an ran back with a force faster than anyone. It will make it a bit more racey but not that huge of a change.
Do not see what all the fuss is about...
Velious is on the horizon, be happy.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Turp_SmokinPurp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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TMO had it very clear to members not to be in the zone during VS hours exping. An I am pretty sure there was 0 TMO exping during the window. If there was a few at the zone in ( for sure not a force we only had 25 or so total in the end) they was there because TMO had just got done doing draco, was moving to setup for Fay and VS and people buffing etc and re camping. An that would of been 5 people max.

I believe all guilds going for FFA targets like Trak/VS/SEV are doing this? Or should be. No groups exping can just go in an engage, I thought this was already a thing?

So say that your change goes into effect, the guilds must camp outside the zone? still would of been the same result.
Or as the others in this thread have said to make it so trackers cannot engage? Still TMO mobilized an ran back with a force faster than anyone. It will make it a bit more racey but not that huge of a change.
Do not see what all the fuss is about...
Velious is on the horizon, be happy.

I don't think you guys did anything wrong. It's really coming down to interpratation of the rules. The rules listed on raid.php are set in stone - you guys broke none of these. The random rules on the forums do say otherwise, but no clarification was ever given.

I know BDA is playing it ultra-safe. If this was us in the situation, I would have called for a forfeit on our part just because we had more than 2 folks in zone when the mob popped. This is just us though, and I'm sure you can understand why I'd take the cautious route.

Probably just going to need to setup some sort of gentleman's agreement amongst guilds about what is OK and what isn't OK.

[Lron]

These rules are all messed up. Every guild can just "experience" in these zones with non guilded alts.

Poopsocking will be here forever, get over it.

[chief]

or guilds can just poopsock in DL with their 40+ people

[khanable]

Originally Posted by chief [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or guilds can just poopsock in DL with their 40+ people

Honestly this would probably be the most black/white option that doesn't allow tampering.

"Entrance", you mean in the corner by the zone line? Not beyond the bridge? Not beyond the exact zone in spot?

Vs

"Out of the fucking zone"

With extra added bonus of mass LD's because 80 people tried to zone in at once. Classic?!

[Lron]

Are there any genuine "races" for mobs now that you can only poop sock outside the entrance of a zone instead of at the raid spawn?

If there is, I can see this rule having value...if not, its just making poop socking legal outside a zone instead of inside it.

[chief]

hey lron do us all a favour and stfu

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly this would probably be the most black/white option that doesn't allow tampering.

"Entrance", you mean in the corner by the zone line? Not beyond the bridge? Not beyond the exact zone in spot?

Vs

"Out of the fucking zone"

With extra added bonus of mass LD's because 80 people tried to zone in at once. Classic?!

Class C raid mobs need to be signed up for ahead of time and individual toons need to be flagged to be able to engage said encounters. All flagged characters are then restricted to the east commonlands zone only until the mob spawns, from there the guilds/characters need to run and mobilize for all mobs.

[JayN]

BAN TMO!!!!

i thought they were raid banned till velious damn those #1 cheaters

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