Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I'm sure they are currently working at a diminished capacity, my guess is that him and his team are working diligently to resupply. I know for a while people were posting that he took P99 off his site, but a quick search shows it is back again. I applaud the GMs for their effort to stop him. I wish there was more they could do. It's a silly cat and mouse game.

Item's are also beginning to show up on Platlord's list of things to sell.. and even worse than Platlord, there was a post on another forum(with colorful name) that indicated a big seller from live that sells on every server was also getting involved in the show.

[Noselacri]

Originally Posted by Nirgon

The raid scene wasn't designed to support thousands

Everquest was not designed to have one server. Failing to account for this when emulating Everquest will lead to the problems at hand.

I have yet to hear any argument based in sound reason that supports the current situation. It's always ignorance of the cause of it and/or conscious desire to deprive other players of access to gameplay.

If this were classic Everquest, people could move to a different server with room in the raid scene, and new servers would open up when the older ones got too crowded. When you don't provide this option or an alternative that sufficiently simulates it, you create these problems and make the server very unclassic.

Defending that is a declaration of idiocy.

[heartbrand]

There's not enough content to be consumed so this will always be a problem. In the interim if you are sick of being cock blocked, red has a 200% EXP bonus as well as scaling EXP bonus and no variance. I'll never understand why an entire blue guild just doesn't move over together, pop begets more pop etc. If two or three guilds did this you'd see 400+ on red in no time.

[Noselacri]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's not enough content to be consumed so this will always be a problem. In the interim if you are sick of being cock blocked, red has a 200% EXP bonus as well as scaling EXP bonus and no variance. I'll never understand why an entire blue guild just doesn't move over together, pop begets more pop etc. If two or three guilds did this you'd see 400+ on red in no time.

Because Everquest has some of the worst PvP in gaming history?

[Nirgon]

Well, obviously SoE recognized Rogean and project 1999 (unless he just signed up as that on the ticket for "for show" purposes), so they don't care or care as much about what he's doing.

However.

People making money off this server would probably be of interest to them. Maybe he should catch them/reveal their identity and hand them over to SoE. The threat of that should be enough, I'd think.

[Sarius]

The point is that training is a dumb rule and should not be allowed in any zone, period.

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by labmonkey42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has been well-established that the "training" that happens in VP is largely due to pathing problems in the zone.

If you want those pixels badly enough to out-TMO TMO then part of doing so involves a design to achieve results without being derailed and giving up because TMO's pull trained you regardless of whether it was intentional or purely due to bad pathing.

If you can't handle someone working the system to their advantage over you, become better. Maybe that means working a different angle. Maybe that means being more of an asshole. Maybe that means being capable of surviving that train and continuing on to your target.

Second place is the best loser. If you're in a guild that wants to do VP and you're complaining on the forums then you want your pixels but you don't want it badly enough to do what it takes to achieve that goal. Either give up or do better. Nothing will be solved by complaining about how little fun it is for you to not be good enough to do what you want to do.

Shit's classic.

That said, I come from emarr where Da`Kor/MS/MF started a rotation/calendar setup. I thought it was a good idea there, but p99 isn't emarr. There are far too many, "well FUCK them" posts from members of guilds on all sides of the argument. I doubt all parties would stick to the agreements. Furthermore, what settled it for me was when I heard someone from TMO state that a rotation would be worth considering if not for them having a scheduled wait for another guild to fail before TMO cleans up anyway.

This brings me right back to my original point: get better and stop complaining.

You're either ignorant to what is going on or just plain stupid. Can't decide which.

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by labmonkey42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say something productive. I dare you.

Lol and you are? "Get better, qq less!"

Skill has nothing to do with the current raid scene. Pathing accounts for a small portion of VP training. Confirmed idiot, not ignorant.

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by labmonkey42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everything I said was productive. Nothing you have ever said is productive. Stop talking now.

To your points:
1) not remotely
2) incorrect
3) still not disproving my "you're an idiot" theorum

[SCB]

Originally Posted by labmonkey42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say something productive. I dare you.

You really don't realize the training is intentional? Really?