Zimmerman NOT Guilty

[Mesenkomaha]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a purely legal standpoint, Zimmerman is not guilty, but let’s be serious here, shall we?

He shot a black teenager at point-blank range in the chest, leaving him dead within minutes.

The jury acted within the letter of the law, I guess. But give me a break, he is far from an "innocent" man. I think we all know what happened here, don’t we? Seriously, don’t we?

I'll tell you what I think happened, although it doesn't matter what any of us think. I think Z saw M and followed him. He then asked what M was up to. M either mouthed off or didn't respond. Z grabbed him to try to turn him around and M attacked him. M was probably really kicking his ass. Z panicked, pulled his gun and shot. Self defense? Judging by this story yes, but he probably did initiate it.

Why did he pursue? Because M was a young black kid in a neighborhood that had recent break-ins.

Z was wrong and foolish to pursue and he is paying by having his life destroyed. At the same time M was wrong to run away/fight when Z asked him what he was up to during the pursuit. I seriously believe, and wish, that M would have said something like "I'm going to my dad's house, want to walk with me?" so this whole thing would never have happened. I am just so sick of hearing about it and being called a racist for agreeing with the jury.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The jury acted within the letter of the law, I guess. But give me a break, he is far from an "innocent" man. I think we all know what happened here, don’t we? Seriously, don’t we?

Spell out what you feel happened. As you are using feelings and not the piles of eyewitness accounts, physical evidence and 911 phone call records.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a purely legal standpoint, Zimmerman is not guilty, but let’s be serious here, shall we?

He shot a black teenager at point-blank range in the chest, leaving him dead within minutes.

The jury acted within the letter of the law, I guess. But give me a break, he is far from an "innocent" man. I think we all know what happened here, don’t we? Seriously, don’t we?

Call me dumb,retarded or whatever but no... I do not know. Zimmerman feared for his life and defended himself, thats the bottom line as far as I see it. If I had my piece on me and someone attacked me? You bet your ass I am going to empty that magazine in there chest. period

[Kagatob]

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[hatelore]

My technician at work is black, He is a good man too. He has worked for me for a few years,I love working with the guy. showed up today, In Texas heat with his hoody on. I asked him if he was cold. He knew I was fucking with him, but he understands that I feel the way I feel and he feels the way he feels. Who is right? Who cares? We just work together, we don't let that shit get personal.

Bottom line is, when I left that day. I didn't leave saying to myself " fuck him for supporting Trayvon" We all have causes we support. It sucks the kid lost his life. I just don't agree that all this outrage should be over Trayvon. There are other causes a million times more important to the black man, In my opinion. Like how about 74% of all black children are born out of wedlock. I could go on.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Mesenkomaha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll tell you what I think happened, although it doesn't matter what any of us think. I think Z saw M and followed him. He then asked what M was up to. M either mouthed off or didn't respond. Z grabbed him to try to turn him around and M attacked him. M was probably really kicking his ass. Z panicked, pulled his gun and shot. Self defense? Judging by this story yes, but he probably did initiate it.

Why did he pursue? Because M was a young black kid in a neighborhood that had recent break-ins.

Z was wrong and foolish to pursue and he is paying by having his life destroyed. At the same time M was wrong to run away/fight when Z asked him what he was up to during the pursuit. I seriously believe, and wish, that M would have said something like "I'm going to my dad's house, want to walk with me?" so this whole thing would never have happened. I am just so sick of hearing about it and being called a racist for agreeing with the jury.

if the above happened, fuck zimmerman and he deserved to be convicted of a crime -- possibly even the third degree murder via child abuse that they tried to lay on him.

zimmerman had ZERO right to put his hands on martin or attempt to detain him. if he did, he committed a crime and martin was well within his rights to fight back.

but there's no reliable evidence that that's what happened. the only account we have says that trayvon initiated the physical contact and violence.

you seem to think it's ok if zimmerman grabbed his arm. it's not. if trayvon turned and walked away, he did exactly the right thing

[Kagatob]

Anyone who believes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact obviously hasn't listened to the (non-MSNBC Doctored) 911 call.

[Nirgon]

Jail the people who doctored those tapes

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jail the people who doctored those tapes

100% agree

[Mesenkomaha]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if the above happened, fuck zimmerman and he deserved to be convicted of a crime -- possibly even the third degree murder via child abuse that they tried to lay on him.

zimmerman had ZERO right to put his hands on martin or attempt to detain him. if he did, he committed a crime and martin was well within his rights to fight back.

but there's no reliable evidence that that's what happened. the only account we have says that trayvon initiated the physical contact and violence.

you seem to think it's ok if zimmerman grabbed his arm. it's not. if trayvon turned and walked away, he did exactly the right thing

You see, your opinion doesn't matter. Neither does mine. We can make up stories about what might have happened or what we think happened but it doesn't matter. Only two people know what happened. One is dead and the other says he defended himself. The state could not prove that Z murdered M or didn't act in self defense. That's all there is to it.

We as computer nerds like to play theorycraft and the general public loves crime dramas like those shitty CSI NCIS Law and Order shows and think they know forensics and law from TV. We can't solve this problem with missing information or making shit up like they do on TV though.

The only true fact we know is that Z has been found not guilty by a jury of his peers because the state could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't acting in self defense.