What hobby has the highest sperglord content?

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My old roommate is a semi-professional yo-yoer and gets royalties because his name is on a specific model of yo-yo people buy ha. That's the closest I know to someone making a fair amount of money from a very obscure hobby...it's certainly not enough to pay the bills.

That's pretty cool, actually. I can yo-yo a little and I've always liked it. I've been working on body juggling. I like most dexterity skills.

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the guy who maintains that earnings list and keeps it up-to-date probably has the spurgiest hobby.

That's from the WotC site. Whoever updates that is getting paid.

[OMGWTF420]

for a second i thought this thread was about hobby

[Gunga]

That list is also over 7 years old. Some of those players have made quite a bit more. Also as was stated earlier most pro magic players make the jump into the WSOP and earn a lot more money. David Williams and Eric froelich are probably the most well know. Gabriel nassif is also another but im not sure he has had as much success.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Gunga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also as was stated earlier most pro magic players make the jump into the WSOP and earn a lot more money.

Most is a big jump. To say even "A fair amount" would be a jump.

It also has little to nothing to do with Magic and everything to do with the natures of competitive environments in general, what you're saying implies that Magic eventually leads to poker which is simply not true. Many athletes for example participate in several sports but there is no direct correlation between any particular sports leading to participation in specific others.

Originally Posted by Gunga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

David Williams and Eric froelich are probably the most well know. Gabriel nassif is also another but im not sure he has had as much success.

While I won't dispute that Eric Froehlich is living the dream, statistically he's an anomaly. David Williams for example has gotten himself in trouble multiple times in his Magic career for blatantly cheating.

Williams isn't an exception either, he was buddies with one of the most renowned Magic players Mike Long, who's been disqualified from at least 10 different high tier events for cheating. The creators of the game call him a villain, the players don't seem to care because they can't see past the fact that he "builds good decks".

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Gunga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That list is also over 7 years old. Some of those players have made quite a bit more. Also as was stated earlier most pro magic players make the jump into the WSOP and earn a lot more money. David Williams and Eric froelich are probably the most well know. Gabriel nassif is also another but im not sure he has had as much success.

I completely missed the updated date. My bad!

[big league chew]

sum1 buy my blue hurricane

[Alawen]

When did Williams get in trouble besides the Accumulated Knowledge thing in 2001? He got busted, he took his suspension like a man, and then he came back playing clean. Do you honestly think he's getting by cheating in the WSoP?

Why are you trying to pretend that there aren't dozens of pros making a nice income off Magic? You realize there aren't that many pros, right? You might want to keep in mind that a lot of these guys are my friends. One of the friends I caught up with at GP Minneapolis was David. He's a great guy. He's friendly, humble, and funny. He's also never been particularly close with Mike Long, though he played some of Mike's decks.

A lot of people played some of Mike's decks. Mike is an amazing deckbuilder. He was also a hellish opponent because even if he wasn't cheating, he was using wicked psychological tricks on you. Mike and I aren't close, but I think he deserves to be in the HoF. I think Mark Justice does, too, and *I* am actually the guy who caught him with the Muscle Sliver. The official account is wrong--they used the print run variation to prove it, but I was in the dealer room when he went to get the fourth sliver. That incident is the reason that premier event limited cards get stamped now.

If you think about it, WotC has done an excellent job of improving their officiating. Every guy who gets caught helps prevent future cheating.

You seem to be emotionally invested in bashing Magic right now. Your arguments are getting weaker and you're exaggerating and telling lies. I think you're pissed off that you don't have more anime allies in RnF and I'm confused by it. Surely there are forums where you can happily share your anime fandom? This just isn't one. For whatever reasons, this particular group of people doesn't have a lot of anime fans.

[Kagatob]

"I was there, I know all of them and I was actually the guy who caught him?"

I'm sorry but I'm not that gullible to believe all of those coincidences. Calling BS on all accounts.

Last time I heard such an elaborate claim was when they were trying to convince us Bush knocked down the towers.

[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I was there, I know all of them and I was actually the guy who caught him?"

I'm sorry but I'm not that gullible to believe all of those coincidences. Calling BS on all accounts.

Last time I heard such an elaborate claim was when they were trying to convince us Bush knocked down the towers.

As you wish. I played on the pro tour between 1997 and 1999.

[Barkingturtle]

In 1995 or 1996 I went to school with a kid (and during one semester we drank his family's liquor cabinet) whose step-dad had been one of the original creators of Magic but had sold his stake to WotC. Still, they had a whole room in their house stocked with unopened boxes of the cards, from floor to ceiling -- all from various different sets and stuff, I guess. I don't know, because I only dabbled in the early nineties and was more interested in PnP RPGs than card games, but I did steal one of those boxes because I knew it had value.

In one of my least proud moments, I was caught. They were pretty clever about it. The step-dad called my house and pretended to be a detective with the Colorado Springs Police and convinced me that if I just returned the box all would be forgiven. I brought it to school the next day and gave it to his stepson and they revealed their deception to which I replied: Doh.

That's my Magic story.