Velious Spells - Community Input/Discussion

[Decad]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question for Nilbog / anyone with the bane spells:

Are wizard banes requiring belly cast on beta? Myga is a BITCH to find.

Iirc they shouldn't require a belly cast as they do not on the live test server, although lures etc still should (and also do on the test server). I'm not finding a lot on this either way.


http://rrinnoruuk.yuku.com/topic/203...t#.VE_YC2dOVyI



http://www.elitegamerslounge.com/hom...?f=177&t=69785

No. You dont need to be in melee range for banes. They WILL land as long as in range. The drawback to the spell is that it will only work for certain mobs and below is the list of working mobs.

Look at this graffe post at Post #12 by Qaman (even though he is talking about Fabled, Fabled is an improved version of the original dragon ) , #18 by Banghi and #21 by Celebairn

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...Spell-Reflects

Below is the list of "banneable" mobs

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...ght=Hsagra%27s

Hsagra's Wrath a.k.a. Giant's Bane:

Derakor the Vindicator (Kael)
Narandi the Wretched (10th Ring Quest)
King Tormax (Kael)
Velketor the Sorcerer (Velketor's Lab)

Porlos' Fury a.k.a. Dragon's Bane:

Lord Yelinak (Skyshrine)
Telkorenar (ToV West)
Gozzrem (ToV West)
Lendiniara the Keeper (ToV West)
Dozekar the Cursed (ToV East a.k.a. Halls of Testing)
Aaryonar (ToV North)
Lady Mirinella (ToV North)
Lady Nevederia (ToV North)
Lord Feshlak (ToV North)
Lord Koi'Doken (ToV North)
Lord Kreizenn (ToV North)
Lord Vyemm (ToV North)
Vulak`Aerr (ToV North)
Ventani the Warder (Sleeper's Tomb)
Nanzata the Warder (Sleeper's Tomb)
Tukaarak the Warder (Sleeper's Tomb)
Hraashna the Warder (Sleeper's Tomb)

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Decad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. You dont need to be in melee range for banes.

Pras

[Ele]

Summary:

December 4, 2000 - Velious Release -- Translocate (no confirmation box)
May 8, 2001 - Added Translocate: North Karana, Greater Faydark, Toxxulia, Combine and Group
May 8, 2001 - Added Confirmation yes/no box for all translocate spells.
June 27, 2001 - Added "Lesser" Translocate spells: Cazic-Thule, West Commons, Nektulos, North Ro
June 27, 2001 - Added "Small Portal Fragments".
November 8, 2001 - Added Translocate: Iceclad, Wakening Land, Cobalt Scar, Great Divide. Added Velious Gates/Rings: Great Divide, Cobalt Scar, Wakening Lands.


"Small Portal Fragments" required for CT, WC, Nek, NRo, Iceclad, Wakening Land, Cobalt Scar, Great Divide (Velious Translocates also require target to have appropriate Velious port tooth).
Target being Translocated (any of them) is required to group with the wizard for the life of the server.
Initially there should not be a confirmation box that the target is being translocated. Confirmation box added with May 8, 2001 patch adding "greater" translocate spells.


Sources and Links:

Added June 27, 2001 (same patch as removing dungeon restriction for Kunark evacs) for use with the "lesser spire" translocates: CT, WC, Nek, Nro.

https://web.archive.org/web/20011214...chive_0601.htm

Lesser Translocates On Test Server:
The upcoming Translocates to the lesser combine ruins are for sale on the Test Server. These Translocates will push a player to Cazic Thule, West Commonlands, Nektulos Forest, and North Ro. Here's the data on the spells -

Mana Required: 225
Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: All
Range to Target: 100 feet
Casting Time: 10.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.25 seconds
Recast Delay: 6.0 seconds
Reagent: small portal fragments, (1pp)
The spells are once again, found on the gnome within the Temple of Solusek Ro named, Terblyn Zelbus and they cost about 40pp each. The reagent, Small Portal Fragments, costs a little over 1pp, is a stackable item, and is also sold from Terblyn Zelbus. I have added the spells to the Level 44 Spells page but just remember that they are not on the live servers as of yet.

Velious Gates and Translocates added November 8, 2001

https://web.archive.org/web/20020123...ww.graffe.com/

New Translocates and Gates For Sale:
Terblyn Zelbus (gnomish portal fragment merchant) in the Temple of Solusek Ro has a few new spells for sale.

Great Divide Gate (lvl 34) - 11pp
Cobalt Scar Gate (lvl 39) - 11pp
Wakening Lands Gate (lvl 39) - 11pp

Translocate: Iceclad (lvl 49) - 31pp
Translocate: Wakening Lands (lvl 49) - 31pp
Translocate: Cobalt Scar (lvl 49) - 31pp
Translocate: Great Divide (lvl 49) - 31pp

Target of Translocate must be grouped with wizard for life of the server:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020319.html

March 19, 2002 Patch

Translocate spells no longer require that the target be grouped with the caster. Also, the dialogue box for this spell will remain longer.

Confirmation box for target of translocate added May 2001 along with Trans: Fay, Tox, NorthK, Combine, and Group:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010508.html

Translocation spells: Five new Wizard 'push' spells have been added (Translocate: Fay, Tox, North, Combine and Group). Translocate spells send the group to the location, while the Wizard remains behind. Translocate Group sends everyone in the group (except the Wizard) to their own bind points. Translocate Group can be found on NPCs in Velious (and they won't give them up easily). The others are available on an exclusive vendor. All Translocate spells (even the original Translocate) have confirmation boxes that must be accepted before the target will be sent. And Wizards can no longer Translocate themselves.

2002 FAQ on Wizards from Graffe's Forum.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...ht=translocate

11. Ports and Translocates.

Q: Which translocates require portal fragments?
A: West Commons, North Ro, Great Divide, Cobalt Scar, Cazic Thule, Nektulos, Waking Lands, Iceclad Ocean.

Q: Where can I buy portal fragments?
A: In the temple of Solusek Ro from a short chap named Terblyn Zelbus located in the back of the temple on the right hand side on a balcony.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...ht=translocate

July 2001 Post:

I think the new translocate spels are also level 39..
Nektulos, Common, West Karana, NRO, Cazic

each is around 40pp sold by the same gnome in Temple of Sol Ro

they all use a component sold 1 pp called something like "portal fragment"

https://web.archive.org/web/20010720...://graffe.com/
May 2001 Response from Absor regarding confirmation boxes and needing to be grouped.

"The Translocate spells will still require you to be grouped with someone you wish to Trans. This isn't a bug. It was left in to prevent people from spamming others with requester boxes.

- Lawrence Poe"

I've had a lot of comments about this topic. This is how we want this to work. It's going to work this way for the foreseeable future. Try it out for a while, see how it works and see if this is really a problem. While we might change this at some time in the future, it's going to stay as it is for now.

Alan

Costs of Translocates added in May 2001:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010720...://graffe.com/

Zone Translocate Costs:
Yesterday I posted the price on the new translocates was around 13 to 16pp. I was wrong. The actual price fluctuates from about 18pp to 24pp each.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May 8, 2001 - Added Translocate: North Karana, Greater Faydark, Toxxulia, Group.
June 27, 2001 - Added "Lesser" Translocate spells: Cazic-Thule, West Commons, Nektulos, North Ro
June 27, 2001 - Added "Small Portal Fragments".
November 8, 2001 - Added Translocate: Iceclad, Wakening Land, Cobalt Scar, Great Divide. Added Velious Gates/Rings: Great Divide, Cobalt Scar, Wakening Lands.

Fixed, pending update.

May 8, 2001 - Added Confirmation yes/no box for all translocate spells.

Listed for dev work and discussion.

"Small Portal Fragments" required for CT, WC, Nek, NRo, Iceclad, Wakening Land, Cobalt Scar, Great Divide (Velious Translocates also require target to have appropriate Velious port tooth).

Fixed, pending update.

Target being Translocated (any of them) is required to group with the wizard for the life of the server.

Listed for source developers to fix.

[Ele]

Nil,

Add Translocate: Combine to the May 8, 2001 spell patch. It is in the source quote, but I accidentally left it out of the summary.

NVM I see it is already added in an earlier post.

[Nirgon]

Yaw the links I paged through said stuff about how it worked like manaburn with no belly cast required and reference the plague that was Aaryonar on casters / this spell. Giant bane thrown in because dragon faction guilds lost they damn minds nerf after nerf after nerf.

Don't have dragon bane on beta, but on my run with Faceless Order on Live Test... it didn't need belly cast.

There's a patch note that states a time where the bane line didn't have a recast timer too and you could spam it. Here's the notes and thread where Alarti and I get real giddy about it.

•Hsagra's Wrath and Porlos' Fury now have a 5 second recast delay.

Same patch as this change for timing purposes:

•Wind of the North, Wind of the South, Markar's Relocation and Tishan's Relocation have had their additional restrictions removed, and can now be cast from any zone where other similar spells can be cast.

[nilbog]

Was Conglaciation of Bone released with Velious, during Velious, or later?

[nilbog]

West Wastes spell drops finished - whew.

That was the last zone that needed them. Now, as far as spells go, I'm left with the following questions:

-Should Rushka Deklamoor sell Strengthen Death as part of the Feb2001 update?
-Primal Avatar: was it released with Velious, or during ? Should only drop in Sleeper's Tomb afaik.
-Conglaciation of Bone: was it released with Velious, during Velious, or after? From what I see, it only drops from Derakor and Vindicator. Seems weird.
-Should the bane spells be exempt from bellycast rules? If so, it's already working like that.
-Anything that hasn't been addressed here. Particularly involving pre-Velious zones not available for testing on the beta server.

Thanks for the help so far.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

-Primal Avatar: was it released with Velious, or during ? Should only drop in Sleeper's Tomb afaik.

Seems correct.

EQShaman.com confirms that it only drops in Sleeper's Tomb.
https://web.archive.org/web/20011206...allspells.html

Primal Avatar Alt 375 +100 Strength, +100 Dexterity, +100 Agility,
+224 Attack
DOES NOT require an Emerald to cast. Found in Sleepers Tomb (No Drop) recast delay of 3 minutes.

Conglaciation of Bone: was it released with Velious, during Velious, or after? From what I see, it only drops from Derakor and Vindicator. Seems weird.

Doesn't seem to be a lot of information about Conglaciation of Bone. It isn't listed on necro spell sets at numerous sites through mid-2002. The earliest references I'm seeing are mid-2002. I haven't seen any "brand new spell" type posts, just it showing up in the spell listings.

[Vandy]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

West Wastes spell drops finished - whew.


-Primal Avatar: was it released with Velious, or during ? Should only drop in Sleeper's Tomb afaik.

All information I see says ST only - No Drop scroll as well. I would assume that it was in at launch, but most guilds didn't make it into Sleeper's Tomb until a few months after so no way to tell 100%.