Will Visceral ever get epic?

[Tiggles]

lol wasn't FE the "We hate TMO so much" guild?

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FE you've wanted an excuse to hate us since day 1. Your members leaving amplified it.
You would've found a reason to hate us no matter what we do.

Oh the irony!

Well it's nice to see eye to eye on something.

Omg it hurts.

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Mortiiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've wanted an excuse to hate us since day 1. Your members leaving amplified it.

You would've found a reason to hate us no matter what we do.

/shrug

When people left for FE, IIRC, Chest along with many others were not happy about it, but were not angry. But hey, most of us didn't want to track/sock/train 90% of our EQ experience, and if someone was willing to fight the ones that did, who can blame them. Especially if they had intentions of making the server a better place. Obviously it didn't turn out that way. But whatever, as long as you guys are having fun right?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not even comparable, this wasn't awarded loot, this was "you can hold this until we get a slimeblood to complete a necro epic" loot

It's not a mishap, it was calculated and purposeful.

I'm sick and fucking tired of everyone playing the card of "oh but it was a single rogue member of my guild, you can't label the entire guild." Yes, yes I fucking can, and I fucking will. If someone in BDA acts a fool they get removed, plain and simple. We police our members, a player's reputation means something to us. For TMO and FE reputation doesn't mean a goddamn thing. Log in, do as your told, push DPS, collect loot. "Oh but we can't boot Slydexx! That's a 60 wizard! He ports people to raids and pushes DPS!" So it's cool to steal from another guild as long as he pulls his weight at raids. That's bullshit. All you motherfuckers that send me tells telling me that you don't agree with what Sly did but you aren't going to leave FE are fucking spineless. You care more about loot than principles, by staying with FE you condone the despicable act of blatantly stealing loot.

Same shit with TMO, "I don't like it when they train in VP, and train in Hate, and train in Fear, and train at Trak, and those people in my guild who shit up RnF I don't agree with either, but it's just a few bad apples, we're all so nice"

On live reputation mattered. Here it doesn't mean shit as long as the loot is flowing and that's really unfortunate. Grow a fucking pair, stand up for something, aside from acquiring pixels.

you sir are an honorable elf simulator indeed

[kotton05]

Spineless:-/ dam dude

[Cecily]

Think he's mad.

[sanforce]

well this thread has come full circle. so BDA hates FE, and FE hates TMO. Gotcha

[Yajirobe Yajipants]

As long as they're getting pixels........

[Tanthallas]

You are all being naive children to think 'making the server better' the way we intended would not involve doing exactly what TMO did. What exactly do you think fight fire with fire means? Light a fire, show everyone, then put it the fuck out?

I can propose many ideas just as well as most other people here on what 'better' would entail - unless TMO agrees to any changes in the raid scene on p99 you are just building castles in the sky. FE is and always will be open to talks of rotation, civil agreement, etc., with any other guild that would like to raid. If TMO would like to partake in such a discussion, FE is 100% behind it. Guaranteed. The problem is TMO is not and will never open high end server content to ANYONE other than themselves without trying as hard as they can to block these peoples attempts to do so.

Don't delude yourselves because you are angry; i know many of you, and many of you are much smarter than this nonsense you have been posting here.

[Zeelot]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are all being naive children to think 'making the server better' the way we intended would not involve doing exactly what TMO did. What exactly do you think fight fire with fire means? Light a fire, show everyone, then put it the fuck out?

I can propose many ideas just as well as most other people here on what 'better' would entail - unless TMO agrees to any changes in the raid scene on p99 you are just building castles in the sky. FE is and always will be open to talks of rotation, civil agreement, etc., with any other guild that would like to raid. If TMO would like to partake in such a discussion, FE is 100% behind it. Guaranteed. The problem is TMO is not and will never open high end server content to ANYONE other than themselves without trying as hard as they can to block these peoples attempts to do so.

Don't delude yourselves because you are angry; i know many of you, and many of you are much smarter than this nonsense you have been posting here.

Stealing guildbank items from other guilds & fast-tracking the apps who steal for you = what FE does, it's not what TMO does. If you think you're fighting fire with fire, you have quite a misconception of reality.

TMO kills raid mobs and then awards the epic items that drop from those said raid mobs. No stealing is necessary to obtain eyes of innoruuk. I happen to have several of them banked, if I app on an alt and provide an eye of innoruuk or other god epic item will you guys fast track me too?