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Old 06-12-2013, 06:30 PM
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If something that scowls runs past you, it should add you. If something that scowls runs past something you've rooted somewhere, it should try to pick up that hate list as well.
While this may be true in Sky, where agro is bonkers, it's not so in other zones.

RTA mobs that have hate on someone else and run past you should only put you on their hate list if you are actively engaged with a mob they are social with, and only when that mob is also within their radius (they "see" you attacking it). If you are sitting on a wall afk and someone trains past you, you should only get agro if the mobs path back through you without a hate list after the training player dies, FDs, or zones.

Likewise, if you have a mob rooted and another mob moves into its radius, that mob should only put you on its hate list if it is social with the mob you have rooted or if it is RTA and you are also within its aggro radius (normal aggro).

I reported a similar issue a few days ago regarding Cazel assisting a rooted zombie in Oasis while I was several hundred units away, on the other side of the beach. That shouldn't happen, because Cazel shouldn't be social with zombies.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:39 PM
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:41 PM
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You have proof that invis and ivu didn't stack? I don't remember that being the case.
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:44 PM
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You have proof that invis and ivu didn't stack? I don't remember that being the case.
I do remember this. To get them to stack you had to have them land at virtually the same time. What made Guk such a pain in the ass.

Thanks for bringing this up. I'll make a bug report for ya.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:04 PM
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Totally remember having a buffing line in front of the fear portal, with cycled invising happening. Had to be done in a certain order in a certain way.

Along the lines of.. start casting invis vs undead on yourself. When group member sees you start casting, they start casting regular invis. Invisibility vs undead lands on you. Group member's invis lands, and stacks on top of the existing IVU. They both had to be 'in progress' or something or it wouldn't work.

When that stopped or what it made it work to begin with, I do not know. Would not argue with it's removal if evidence points that it should not work. All I can say is.. it certainly did at one point.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:52 AM
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'in progress' or something
This was tick bug/feature mechanics which don't exist on eq emu. This is also how rogue sneak pulling was accomplished on live.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:27 PM
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Guessing here, but I imagine te spell check ( is this guy already invis/invis undead ) fired when the spell was cast, not when it landed. That's what made it work. Evidently it didn't follow normal stacking rules because teh effects were technically different.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:46 PM
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Its the problem with agro assist is how people are solo pulling while invs.
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Old 06-12-2013, 02:57 PM
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Just like if you asked him where the phat loot was he would kill everyone? There are reasonsa why people wernt allowed to use /say in sky. It could wipe raids.

Im more classic than you Nirgon!@
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:01 PM
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Im more classic than you Nirgon!@
Get me some of what this fella is smoking.

PS: I lika you. I hope you lika me.

BTW Phat Lewts was PoG mob.. relevant to A'wind's interests:

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