the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the same to the person being killed.

Of course, which is a pro-life statement that I'm not sure you were intending to make.

But the moral culpability in this argument is on the part of the killer. Why did they kill the innocent life? Certainly doing so out of pure personal convenience, when it is a 3 or 5 or 8 month old healthy baby is the starting point though? Like, the most defenseless possible person?

If the innocent child of a terrorist gets killed by a US drone, the moral responsibility for that falls first *on the terrorist parent's actions*, unless it was some kind of mistake. In which case it would fall on the US for their error. I'm certainly not saying the US has never done horrible things sometimes amounting to warcrimes *IN WAR*. Duh. But like maybe don't bring innocent kids into the world and then wish for the destruction and murder of the west and actively work to bring it about? Maybe that's on you? My heart obviously breaks for the dead kid who is totally innocent.

But rob's weirdo comparison to abortion is just... too crazy not to rebutt

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, which is a pro-life statement that I'm not sure you were intending to make.

But the moral culpability in this argument is on the part of the killer. Why did they kill the innocent life? Certainly doing so out of pure personal convenience, when it is a 3 or 5 or 8 month old healthy baby is the starting point though? Like, the most defenseless possible person?

If the innocent child of a terrorist gets killed by a US drone, the moral responsibility for that falls first *on the terrorist parent's actions*, unless it was some kind of mistake. In which case it would fall on the US for their error. I'm certainly not saying the US has never done horrible things sometimes amounting to warcrimes *IN WAR*. Duh.

But rob's weirdo comparison to abortion is just... too crazy not to rebutt

It's just hypocritical to support one but not the other.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, which is a pro-life statement that I'm not sure you were intending to make.

But the moral culpability in this argument is on the part of the killer. Why did they kill the innocent life? Certainly doing so out of pure personal convenience, when it is a 3 or 5 or 8 month old healthy baby is the starting point though? Like, the most defenseless possible person?

If the innocent child of a terrorist gets killed by a US drone, the moral responsibility for that falls first *on the terrorist parent's actions*, unless it was some kind of mistake. In which case it would fall on the US for their error. I'm certainly not saying the US has never done horrible things sometimes amounting to warcrimes *IN WAR*. Duh. But like maybe don't bring innocent kids into the world and then wish for the destruction and murder of the west and actively work to bring it about? Maybe that's on you? My heart obviously breaks for the dead kid who is totally innocent.

But rob's weirdo comparison to abortion is just... too crazy not to rebutt

Just declare war and then killing children is perfectly fine, but don't forget to vote Trump in 2024.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, which is a pro-life statement that I'm not sure you were intending to make.

But the moral culpability in this argument is on the part of the killer. Why did they kill the innocent life? Certainly doing so out of pure personal convenience, when it is a 3 or 5 or 8 month old healthy baby is the starting point though? Like, the most defenseless possible person?

If the innocent child of a terrorist gets killed by a US drone, the moral responsibility for that falls first *on the terrorist parent's actions*, unless it was some kind of mistake. In which case it would fall on the US for their error. I'm certainly not saying the US has never done horrible things sometimes amounting to warcrimes *IN WAR*. Duh. But like maybe don't bring innocent kids into the world and then wish for the destruction and murder of the west and actively work to bring it about? Maybe that's on you? My heart obviously breaks for the dead kid who is totally innocent.

But rob's weirdo comparison to abortion is just... too crazy not to rebutt

Ever wonder why someone chooses to do "terrorism", rebuttal guy? What is a person's reason for taking up arms against a foreign nation exploiting resources and people in another?

You're justifying killing children because of the choices of adults, not me. I'll always compare one pile of dead babies to the other, regardless of the reasons

Stop thinking about trolley problems and ask yourself if that child deserved to be incinerated by that American weapon

"My heart breaks for x" is just meaningless virtue signaling, yawn

I know nobody likes being called a hypocrite, but come the hell on, this is just so obvious

[robayon]

Yeah, I am sure all of those terrorists decided to fight an overwhelmingly powerful enemy bombing their neighbors because every last one of them is either evil or hates the abstract, poorly defined concept of 'our freedom'

What the hell is my freedom doing in rural Afghanistan anyways

[robayon]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abortion is bad and Gustoo is right.

Co-opting here, not Gustoo's words.


Law or not lets do what we can to help those that are struggling with abortions or childcare without harrasing them into suicide and poverty and enabling child abuse.

Let's not pivot around whatever secular laws exist or not.

Fix your own house so that you can safely welcome others into the fold.

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addressing poverty in general would prevent a lot of abortions, but somehow the capitalist pigs are always saying we can't afford socialized healthcare while ordering production on 80 new stealth planes, some of which end up falling into the south china sea and sinking while a buncha sailors die during the crash, who only joined for economic reasons themselves

AMERICA NUMBER 1

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the capitalist pigs are always saying we can't afford socialized healthcare while ordering production on 80 new stealth planes

huh? American socialism has a yearly budget of 4.6 trillion. We have that and it's mandatory.

Military is 700-something-billion last I checked.

[starkind]

There is some help. Perfect is the enemy of good. Can we save everyone? Help people be honorable? We need more of the helping people get themselves right thing. So people can make good choices and also find ways to contribute to helping.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh America did not invent violence, it's just the only country where I'm familiar enough with its history to criticize regularly

bro you aren't even qualified to criticize yourself, you literally just said this:

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No previous nation can claim our titanic levels of violence.

after you said:

America did not invent violence, it's just the only country where I'm familiar enough

by your own admission, you are ignorant to the fact that many, many many nations have us beat as far as a combat body count.

we're 250 years old, many other nations are thousands.

here you are, lil bitch rob, comfortably living in America, while you piss and moan about America, because America enshrines the freedoms for lil bitch rob to bitch about America.

you're a bright bulb for sure

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

addressing poverty in general would prevent a lot of abortions, but somehow the capitalist pigs are always saying we can't afford socialized healthcare while ordering production on 80 new stealth planes, some of which end up falling into the south china sea and sinking while a buncha sailors die during the crash, who only joined for economic reasons themselves

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Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AMERICA NUMBER 1

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