Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But he won't, because then we'd be proven right.

We can't have that, can we?!

l have already provided sufficient evidence. It is up to you to prove my evidence is invalid, which you have yet to do.

Simply claiming my evidence is invalid because you don't like it is not a valid argument.

[PlsNoBan]

God I wish I had a 60 mage to post a metric fuckton of data showing what we all know to be true. It's too bad P99 doesn't have test dummies for DPS benchmarking.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God I wish I had a 60 mage to post a metric fuckton of data showing what we all know to be true. It's too bad P99 doesn't have test dummies for DPS benchmarking.

I wish you did too. It would be much more productive than trolling, and everybody would learn something. I honestly wish you can prove me wrong if you are correct. I don't care who is right. I simply do not concede to trolling and "I am right, you are wrong" arguments. So far the data isn't really in the favor of Mages.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care who is right.

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[PlsNoBan]

So far the data is garbage and not applicable to the question being asked so unfortunately you don't really have a good leg to stand on and you're in the position of trying to argue against common sense which requires greater than average proof which you haven't even come close to providing. Many many people have explained this to you and you ignore it and repeat the same 5 things over and over about how everyone is trolling and only you post data.etc but refuse to acknowledge your data is bad and isn't the data needed to prove the point you're trying to make. I can post a bunch of irrelevant data too but that doesn't prove anything so I choose not to do that. I wish you would do the same.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So far the data is garbage and not applicable to the question being asked so unfortunately you don't really have a good leg to stand on and you're in the position of trying to argue against common sense which requires greater than average proof which you haven't even come close to providing. Many many people have explained this to you and you ignore it and repeat the same 5 things over and over about how everyone is trolling and only you post data.etc but refuse to acknowledge your data is bad and isn't the data needed to prove the point you're trying to make. I can post a bunch of irrelevant data too but that doesn't prove anything so I choose not to do that. I wish you would do the same.

Claiming the data is garbage means nothing because you can't explain why that is.

I could do the same thing to you, and we wouldn't make any progress to discovering the truth.

Saying "your data is bad" without evidence is your "I am right, you are wrong" argument.

[PlsNoBan]

It's been explained why your data isn't relevant probably a dozen times now and you don't acknowledge it. Or if you do acknowledge it you just say dumb shit about how soloing is the same thing as DPSing in a fast killing group environment. Why bother trying to explain it again? Either go get data from a similar environment (2 charm pets. Chain pulling group) or shut up. Your solo data is trash and doesn't answer the question.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's been explained why your data isn't relevant probably a dozen times now and you don't acknowledge it. Or if you do acknowledge it you just say dumb shit about how soloing is the same thing as DPSing in a fast killing group environment. Why bother trying to explain it again?

It hasn't been explained at all. You simply don't like the data, so you keep trolling and saying it's bad.

You have no evidence to show why killing in a group invalidates data gathered while solo.

If your group does 100 DPS on average, a mob with 8000 HP dies in 80 seconds.

If you can do 100 DPS on average solo, a mob with 8000 HP also dies in 80 seconds.

You recover a fixed amount of mana per hour, both solo and grouped. The maximum amount of mana you have available per hour doesn't change.

[Gloomlord]

"Why would the DPS be different in a group" he says, unironically.

Do we even need to say more? The man is a complete fool.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Why would the DPS be different in a group" he says, unironically.

Do we even need to say more? The man is a complete fool.

You still haven't answered why you think the numbers change.

Please do not straw man me with saying "more members = more DPS". Nobody is suggesting otherwise.

You need to explain why 100 DPS solo differs from 100 DPS in a group.

You need to explain why spending 275 mana solo differs from spending 275 mana in a group.