Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[PlsNoBan]

"Shamans are better DPS than Mages" brought to you by the genius that also claimed warriors can solo better than enchanters. The post history is clear and the napkin math is flawless. Anyone saying otherwise is obviously a troll.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

You need to provide better data first. Your data is currently inferior to mine.

[Ripqozko]

You have no warder loot, you are clearly inferior to me. Sorry you werent there when competition mattered.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The only lack of self awareness is from the people calling me stubborn and childish, when over half of their post history is literally memes and insults. I am tryng to have a discussion, which keeps getting derailed by these kinds of posters.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am tryng to have a discussion

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[Troxx]

The only thing I stated is that calculated dps gets weird when you compile dozens of fights. It can log a lot of time not spent fighting and drag down everyone’s dps. It is still useful for comparison sake ie relative dps of one player compared to another.

I acknowledged this with the posting of the very first parse.

The data isn’t wrong, you just have to understand the break point and work within the confines of this issue. This is also why I broke out a good sampling of those dozens of fights to demonstrate that. Fights which DSM has summarily ignored because it doesn’t fit his narrative. Individual fights are generally as close to 100% accurate as is possible.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only thing I stated is that calculated dps gets weird when you compile dozens of fights. It can log a lot of time not spent fighting and drag down everyone’s dps. It is still useful for comparison sake ie relative dps of one player compared to another.

I acknowledged this with the posting of the very first parse.

The data isn’t wrong, you just have to understand the break point and work within the confines of this issue. This is also why I broke out a good sampling of those dozens of fights to demonstrate that. Fights which DSM has summarily ignored because it doesn’t fit his narrative. Individual fights are generally as close to 100% accurate as is possible.

Thanks for a fairly civil post this time.

The thing you don't understand about your own data is you haven't given us all of the individual fights. Because of this, we cannot prove your claim that the average DPS on the top image is incorrect (you are claiming your average DPS is higher than the total of 79). Giving out a few individual fights does not reflect the average DPS you are actually doing. I could also play in a group for hours and cherry pick the best data.

The other problem is you are constrained by mana. For your specific group situation, we need to know the average downtime you had between fights. That determines how much mana the Shaman can spend/recover compared to a Mage. Since you haven't provided that data, we have to make assumptions. You simply have too many gaps in your data for us to just use it verbatim.

At absolute minimum you need to provide the data for all of the fights, so we can do the average ourselves. Otherwise, you data is simply incomplete, and we can't use it effectively.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thing you don't understand about your own data is you haven't given us all of the individual fights.

Says the "conversation participant" who has provided ZERO data of any individual fights which include his Shaman DPSing in a high level fast-paced killing DPS group hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The thing you don't seem to understand (or are misconstruing your true understanding of) is that you have provided zero individual fights which include your Shaman DPSing in a high level fast-paced killing DPS group.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because of this, we cannot prove your claim that the average DPS on the top image is incorrect (you are claiming your average DPS is higher than the total of 79). Giving out a few individual fights does not reflect the average DPS you are actually doing. I could also play in a group for hours and cherry pick the best data.

You giving out a few individual SOLO root-rotting math napkin posts does not reflect the average DPS you are actually doing as part of a high level fast-paced killing DPS group (as has been pointed out to you multiple times by multiple people). This really isn't hard hehe. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you COULD play for hours and cherry pick the best data, but why would you do that? Are you suggesting Troxx has done that - and if not, why are you bringing it up / using it to seemingly avoid having to provide the relevant/requested data? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you haven't provided that data, we have to make assumptions. You simply have too many gaps in your data for us to just use it verbatim.

You have not provided the requested/relevant data (despite 700 posts), are we to assume that you will provide it at some point in the future?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At absolute minimum you need to provide the data for all of the fights, so we can do the average ourselves. Otherwise, you data is simply incomplete, and we can't use it effectively.

Again, as has been stated to you multiple times by multiple people, you have provided zero evidence/data of your Shaman DPSing in a high level fast-paced killing DPS group. I present the entirety of this thread, but specifically the posts that you have ignored, misunderstood or misconstrued (intentionally or otherwise) as evidence of the irrefutable fact that this has been pointed out to you multiple times by multiple people.

[Karanis]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could also play in a group for hours and cherry pick the best data.

Please for the love of god do this. At least then we actually get data/video of you in a group dpsing for an extended period, rather than 2 minute solo videos.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by Karanis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please for the love of god do this. At least then we actually get data/video of you in a group dpsing for an extended period, rather than 2 minute solo videos.

But he won't, because then we'd be proven right.

We can't have that, can we?!