Chira numbuh wan!

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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not likely the treasury but USAID was some little known agency that had good optics with the actual humanitarian aid it provides, so even if people noticed it doing funny things a politician isn't likely to call it out because it's bad optics to be seen as the one who cuts humanitarian aid

inside that organization they built a slush fund structure to channel taxpayer dollars to places of certain interest and influence

anytime that someone got too close or threatened their corrupt money streams, they could threaten to create a political incident by "screwing up" the humanitarian aid

Oh yea that all sounds reasonable in regards to USAID (and possibly other agencies as well)

It’s just when we move on to big fuckers like the Treasury and especially people on the right are expecting fireworks to come, it’s like come on

But now it’s being hyped to hell, so the public expects fireworks. Anything less will be seen (or at least broadcast by the left) as a bit of an L for Elon and Trump

And I don’t think modern day top down huge governmental fraud (like in the Treasury) involving lots of people and agencies/companies is likely without someone having blabbed about it long ago. Going back to my previous post where I mentioned in my opinion the more people in on or benefitting from a conspiracy, without anyone blabbing about it for personal gain, the less likely I feel that scenario is. I just know how easy it can be to manipulate a snitch

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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

every year they just tell congress how much money that they need for the next year and every year congress just says ok sure

According to Google there are two departments that audit the Treasury, the OIG and the GAO

So now we are assuming that the treasury is corrupt, and these two agencies are also corrupt? Each extra corruption to me gets its likelyhood as a multiplier like a betting parley. Meaning I find each extra layer of corruption with (much) shittier and shittier odds of existing

So the formula to me would be like [possibility treasury is corrupt] * [possibility auditor 1 is corrupt] * [possibility auditor 2 is corrupt]

It’s still possible, I just find it highly unlikely

[Trexller]

yeah the treasury is too public to be dirty AF but that's not it's job, it just distributes funds to whatever gov't entity congress says, but it's the steps after that where all the funny business starts

I can only imagine what is going on in every other small gov't agency that isn't spending government money 100% in line with homeland US interests

I'm sure alot of people have thrown some epic shredding and hard drive degaussing parties

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

According to Google there are two departments that audit the Treasury, the OIG and the GAO

So now we are assuming that the treasury is corrupt, and these two agencies are also corrupt? Each extra corruption to me gets its likelyhood as a multiplier like a betting parley. Meaning I find each extra layer of corruption with (much) shittier and shittier odds of existing

So the formula to me would be like [possibility treasury is corrupt] * [possibility auditor 1 is corrupt] * [possibility auditor 2 is corrupt]

It’s still possible, I just find it highly unlikely

yeah exactly it's too public to be dirty, but an organization like usaid is expected to receive money from the treasury, and the majority of it all gets paid out to whatever whoever for various geopolitical uses, after USAID pays an NGO then an NGO pays a charitable fund then they give money to a Ukrainian television station to create the Ghost of Kyiv to rally the ukrainian people to resist their russian invader

or it could be for a trans musical in ireland, or buying 1000x marked up medicine from pfizer

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Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure alot of people have thrown some epic shredding and hard drive degaussing parties

Lol possibly

I did find it odd why all of a sudden some Dem congress members decided to stop by the Dep’t of Education and demanded to be let in past Doge’s guards

I’m wondering why are you here? Just another routine visit to the DoE like all of your routine visits before? (Maybe they did routinely visit before I really don’t know lol)

Then again, I would never imagine someone as old and, no offense, kinda dumb (a lot I chalk up to not aging well) like Maxine Waters to be sent to destroy critical evidence lol

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m wondering why are you here? Just another routine visit to the DoE like all of your routine visits before? (Maybe they did routinely visit before I really don’t know lol)

Then again, I would never imagine someone as old and, no offense, kinda dumb (a lot I chalk up to not aging well) like Maxine Waters to be sent to destroy critical evidence lol

Right i doubt that they had ever been to that building before

they were there just to film videos to put out showing we're here and we're trying to stop the bad orange man

if trump was wiping his ass im sure maxine waters would tell him he's doing it wrong

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno, I think both sides want this “Rampant Corruption At The Highest Level” summer 2025 Blockbuster and usually fraud is more subtle. Criminals are stupid. White collar criminals typically are not as stupid as the dude who shoots the store clerk in front of the cameras for $80

The budgets for these things are so over the top, that's what elon I think is going to filter out. Elon is smart and when there is over spending, theyre just gonna cut all that.

Not find the corruption, but just be like, "over spending? that is corruption, gone."

My guess is all the good programs, actually check out and are on budget and nobody is just scooping up millions during the hand offs. But a lot of the foreign aid shit? I bet 90% of that is just scooped up by evil people.

Like 6 million for Iraqi sesame street... come on, you could do that for like 10k, you dont need all that budget, someone is pocketing like 5.9 million of that.

If meals on wheels checks out then we can keep that. Like, we're not trying to get to 0$ spending. Just stop the obvious cash embezzlement. The corruption is just rampant. It's insane.

It's exactly like Independence Day said, "You dont think they actually spend $20,000 on a hammer? $30,000 on a toilet seat?"

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Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did you hear that?

This is all I could find with some cursory looking:

“The administration’s 90-day freeze on foreign aid, a stop-work order to review agency operations and the abrupt closure of USAID’s headquarters have stalled the aid distribution system, despite the administration’s claim that “life-saving humanitarian assistance” would be allowed to continue ”

- A 90 day freeze is a freeze. I don’t think it means “still send the baby formula though”

But then would critical items resume after 90 days? Or is the agency going to be shut down?

USAID is folded into the state department and Lil' Marco did a humanitarian waiver so PEPFAR and the like should be fine.

They say it's not working though.

"They" being Glenn Greenwald's band of scurrilous knaves.

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Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My guess is all the good programs, actually check out and are on budget and nobody is just scooping up millions during the hand offs. But a lot of the foreign aid shit? I bet 90% of that is just scooped up by evil people.

Like 6 million for Iraqi sesame street... come on, you could do that for like 10k, you dont need all that budget, someone is pocketing like 5.9 million of that

Ya I agree that food and medicine stuff probably checks out. The hard part is USAID isn’t responsible for what the corrupt gov’t of [x] shithole country does with their aid. I mean to some extent they SHOULD cut it off if it is being completely stolen or mismanaged though, you would think. If they didn’t cut it off, I’m assuming the reason is either too incompetent to notice it’s being wasted, or too scared of the retaliatory repercussions from either [x] shithole country or from within current US admin. To me those scenarios are more likely than some secret international racketeering

This is in regards to food and medicine and stuff though. Yea something like some Iraq tv show costing almost as much as Game of Thrones or whatever, that discrepancy in amount could be going anywhere yea

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I could sesame street being more expensive abroad with the need for different brainwashing techniques for foreign cultures.