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Old 01-24-2011, 02:01 PM
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But I mean, seriously.. If you're suggesting the solution is form like 2 or 3 massive raid alliances as a way to *END* poop socking..

lol no. Putting out a forest fire with flamethrowers is what that is.

LOL! So true though.


Can I also point out that the variance still seems whack. When was the last time a boss spawned in the first day of it's window?
1 in 7 chance of that happening, doesn't seem that far fetched. IB didn't even bother to camp out people in Inny's room till like day 3 of his window... it's almost as if it's a given that the mob will not spawn before mid window.
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:10 PM
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You call forming a raid alliance to compete with the poopsockers thinking outside the box. I call it turning all of the so called 'casual raiding' guilds into a super hardcore raid guild. If those people wanted to be hard core raiders, they would be in a sock guild.

I'm sure if we formed up all the smaller raid guilds into one super raid guild we'd have the greatest poopsocking association this server has ever seen, but fuck that when a simulated patch day will be more classic and keep casual casual.
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:19 PM
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You call forming a raid alliance to compete with the poopsockers thinking outside the box. I call it turning all of the so called 'casual raiding' guilds into a super hardcore raid guild. If those people wanted to be hard core raiders, they would be in a sock guild.

I'm sure if we formed up all the smaller raid guilds into one super raid guild we'd have the greatest poopsocking association this server has ever seen, but fuck that when a simulated patch day will be more classic and keep casual casual.


Clearly you misunderstood all aspects of the post. A casual person can offer just as much as a hardcore person. Most the hardcore people are in those two guilds we have discussed. If you read my post clearly it says 6 guilds with 15 members = 90 people. Your telling me a casual person can't devote 4 hours of playtime every other day or so to help contribute? Or perhaps when they are on to come help keep a camp on a raid boss? No one ever , said they would have to stay an entire duration. I would hope such guild leaders and officers would logically employ their members to devote some time if any if this was ever cordinated. Again this is a casual standpoint ,the goal is 90 or so casuals which can be a raid force of 30 hardcore if properly utilized with time restraints and cooperation. Post like yours just show lack of thinking outside the box which clearly what Uuthguard was pointing out in the first place.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:52 PM
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You call forming a raid alliance to compete with the poopsockers thinking outside the box. I call it turning all of the so called 'casual raiding' guilds into a super hardcore raid guild. If those people wanted to be hard core raiders, they would be in a sock guild.
How is it not completely obvious to people when they write things like this, they're just saying, "Yeah, that's great that you suggest we do what it takes to get what we want, but we'd much prefer you just hand it to us!"?
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Old 01-22-2011, 10:00 PM
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How is it not completely obvious to people when they write things like this, they're just saying, "Yeah, that's great that you suggest we do what it takes to get what we want, but we'd much prefer you just hand it to us!"?
How is it not completely obvious to you that you're a moron?

When did I say anything about handouts? Never. I said simulated patch days would allow casual guilds to make attempts on content that is currently on lock down. Like it was on classic. A simulated patch would be closer to classic, and it would give others a chance to race and compete for mobs.

Coordinating to make sure that you have enough people sitting around to compete with the sockers doesn't change the fact that Innoruuk dying within 2 minutes of spawning is stupid.
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:31 PM
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4hours in a row is something I doubt will ever happen for me with greater regularity than once a month if that.

What does that make me, if the above is what a "casual" player does?
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:13 PM
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4hours in a row is something I doubt will ever happen for me with greater regularity than once a month if that.

What does that make me, if the above is what a "casual" player does?
I would hope the guild leaders would cordinate an appropriate time for you to contribute. Whether or not its 4 hours , maybe even 1 hour. Like i said Cooporation and devotion is needed.
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Old 01-22-2011, 04:57 PM
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I think the REAL problem is some people do not want to admit they are wrong. they are arguing for arguement's sake with no intention of achieving anything other than standing their own ground. It's evident from the posts. This is a dead issue.

Want a raid boss? Form up 50-75 people whose only evidenced talent is setting an alarm and waiting, or find a classic EQ server that actually emulates classic EQ.
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Old 01-22-2011, 07:38 PM
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Want a raid boss? Form up 50-75 people whose only evidenced talent is setting an alarm and waiting, or find a classic EQ server that actually emulates classic EQ.
Seems to be pretty accurate.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:10 PM
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Sorry, I got derailed by the "ubers" remark and didn't comment on the second part which is spot on. I'm just frustrated with people talking about all the skill and talent being excercised by the guilds to monopolize the planes and how those that can't get into the planes obviously aren't working hard enough or have the skill when it's all rot. There is no skill to sitting and zerging. More than half these people would never have seen planar loot 10 years ago due to their reliance upon numbers rather than skill.
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