2012 Presidential Debates - Page 16

azeth · #1 10-11-2012, 08:14 PM

I feel like most Americans watch these debates for content and the remainder of us watch them to independently determine how the masses feel about their candidate.

"masses" - isn't that so pretentious?

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Reiker000 · #2 10-11-2012, 04:15 PM

Your point means nothing. Maybe you should try explaining your position instead of just altering a quote and attaching a "ftfy" to it. People much more intelligent than you have been debating human nature and its effect on civilization for centuries.

I would agree that the general populace's humanistic quality to explore mysticism/spiritualism throughout the years has been exploited by others seeking power ie. most organized religions.

Frieza_Prexus · #3 10-11-2012, 05:03 PM

It means nothing, yet you find enough meaning to "agree."

I am simply responding to your "religious nut" statement. That surely meant something. I submit that you invited a rebuttal. If you're looking for a meaningless statement, I suggest you re-read your statement concerning more intelligent people than myself. What did you hope to accomplish with that, other than a dismissal of me?

My point was simply to note that religion is not the cause of our problems. It is instead the exploitative nature of humanity. Which you yourself agreed with.

I posted the Southpark picture because I thought it was extremely topical. Dare I say, clever.

Reiker000 · #4 10-12-2012, 03:05 AM

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It means nothing, yet you find enough meaning to "agree."

I wasn't necessarily agreeing with you because you said nothing that could be agreed (or disagreed) with.

Essentially, your strange thought process seems to be the following:

Religion is not to blame for any of the world's problems.

"Human nature" (bullshit term) is responsible for the world's problems.

In other words, it's not really anyone's fault that the corrupt CEO did some insider trading, it was just part of his human nature to want to make more money.

It's BS. Religion was developed to control people, so the elite could profit while humanity as a whole suffers (war, hatred, taxation, etc.). Ignoring that and buying into it while saying "well, it's just in my human nature" is also BS. And if it was part of human nature, then we'd all believe in God/Allah/The Buddah/whatever. But thankfully there are a lot of rational people out there who prove that wrong.

I'm not just attacking you because it's fun or whatever. Anyone who starts bringing Bible quotes into a political thread should expect these kinds of responses, tbh. But you can't blame me, it's just in my human nature to point out how wrong you are.

Frieza_Prexus · #5 10-12-2012, 03:13 PM

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I wasn't necessarily agreeing with you because you said nothing that could be agreed (or disagreed) with.

Essentially, your strange thought process seems to be the following:

Religion is not to blame for any of the world's problems.

"Human nature" (bullshit term) is responsible for the world's problems.

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But you can't blame me, it's just in my human nature to point out how wrong you are.

Since you seem to be having trouble moving in any direction other than a circle, you stated that religion itself was the problem. That it, in and of itself, was responsible for "holding humanity back."

I countered with the following: While religion can clearly be a tool, the fault lies with an individual whose actions are willful and culpable. I assumed you could follow this with my shorthand of "human nature." It is, after all, natural for some to pursue wrongful actions.

At no point did I say one could not be blamed. I have clearly explored the notion of culpability. It seems I overestimated your reading comprehension.

Perhaps I should not expect as much from a person who is on his third or fourth forum account.

KefkaPalazzo · #6 10-11-2012, 08:50 PM

Not sure what this thread is about but <Nihilum> is looking for dedicated raiders on Red.

azeth · #7 10-11-2012, 09:06 PM

Holy shit the moment Paul Ryan opened his mouth Obama had this sewn up.

Reiker000 · #8 10-11-2012, 10:08 PM

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Holy shit the moment Paul Ryan opened his mouth Obama had this sewn up.

lol yeah.

This is a slaughter.

Kraftwerk · #9 10-12-2012, 12:25 AM

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Holy shit the moment last Friday's jobs report came in with 7.8% UE, Obama had this sewn up.

Just made a quick tweak on that for you. Although the exact point of having sewn up his victory likely came much much earlier than that.

Supreme · #10 10-12-2012, 07:07 AM

Some interesting points.

There will be no President that can solve or fix all the problems with the US or the World. So i would not expect the impossible and believe that either Romney or Obama will start with their Presidency. Remember the primary duty of the President is to be the civilian Commander-in-Chief of our Armed Forces. By doing so he swears to protect and defend the Constitution.

Everything else is rhetoric and pandering to get your vote.

Personally it is obviously stupid for a bi-racial presidental canidate to fully identify with being BLACK just to get people to vote for him based on his race.