Hookrs <TMO> - Page 16

AimAce · #1 08-08-2012, 08:18 PM

I take great offense to your "fix" on my quote saying I can't read and I'm randomly accusing you. I didn't accuse you of ANYTHING other than A. Not asking for specific information right away, and B. Saying Bigol ksed someone else in a thread where this is NOT relevant.

AimAce · #2 08-08-2012, 08:30 PM

Ambrotos, keep in mind I am not the OP. Furthermore, I am not attacking you, and trying to "spin information" to "flame" you. I am telling you that you have potentially slandered the OP's name with an unwarranted comment (again, the random ks log that is NOT NECESSARY). If you have been reading thread. you will realize that the OP has now, been called a KSER multiple times even though there is NO FACTUAL evidence besides your log, which does NOT tell the whole story.

People might compare this to the screenshot, but let me say a couple of things.
1. Ambrotos is a GM, he should not be going around slandering people in the first place intentional of not.
2. A screenshot provides a more complete story than logs, which say only "Yes or no". That is why we have things called "Witnesses" in court.

Autotune · #3 08-08-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AimAce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ambrotos, keep in mind I am not the OP. Furthermore, I am not attacking you, and trying to "spin information" to "flame" you. I am telling you that you have potentially slandered the OP's name with an unwarranted comment (again, the random ks log that is NOT NECESSARY). If you have been reading thread. you will realize that the OP has now, been called a KSER multiple times even though there is NO FACTUAL evidence besides your log, which does NOT tell the whole story.

People might compare this to the screenshot, but let me say a couple of things.
1. Ambrotos is a GM, he should not be going around slandering people in the first place intentional of not.
2. A screenshot provides a more complete story than logs, which say only "Yes or no". That is why we have things called "Witnesses" in court.

Ambrotos has more (better) evidence that Bigol is a KSer than Bigol has of Hookrs being a KSer lol.

AimAce · #4 08-08-2012, 09:08 PM

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Ambrotos has more (better) evidence that Bigol is a KSer than Bigol has of Hookrs being a KSer lol.

Haha, I suppose by definition you are correct [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See what you've done ambrotos?! =( haha

Ambrotos · #5 08-08-2012, 08:43 PM

I slandered no one. Stop taking what I said out of context. I said what it said on the log report nothing more. I'm sure if he KSed a AC from someone, they would have made a petition about it and we would have acted on it. I said credited with a KS, not that he DID ks.

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Edit* I do see Bigol being credited with a KS on the AC from Aalamar on July 19th.

If you want to know if he really KSed Aalamar ask him. I never saw a petition or gotten a message from him so who knows what happened.

Hailto · #6 08-08-2012, 09:01 PM

Question is why would you even bring it up, given that it has exactly zero to do with the current issue Ambrotos?

tops419 · #7 08-08-2012, 09:14 PM

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I slandered no one. Stop taking what I said out of context. I said what it said on the log report nothing more. I'm sure if he KSed a AC from someone, they would have made a petition about it and we would have acted on it. I said credited with a KS, not that he DID ks.

If you want to know if he really KSed Aalamar ask him. I never saw a petition or gotten a message from him so who knows what happened.

LOL
that was a really stupid distinction to try to make.

Frieza_Prexus · #8 08-08-2012, 10:15 PM

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LOL
that was a really stupid distinction to try to make.

Not necessarily. We've been shown the log interface before, and every single mob has a column titled "KS: yes/no" That column, of course, is simply notating if the FTE and kill were credited to the same person/group.

Perhaps Ambrotos was using a term that was typical for him, but not the board? Camping the mob would equate to owning the spawn, but if someone else killed it he mighted be credited a "KS", but did not actually steal anything.

Or he could be grasping at straws. Either way.

Autotune · #9 08-08-2012, 10:22 PM

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Not necessarily. We've been shown the log interface before, and every single mob has a column titled "KS: yes/no" That column, of course, is simply notating if the FTE and kill were credited to the same person/group.

Perhaps Ambrotos was using a term that was typical for him, but not the board? Camping the mob would equate to owning the spawn, but if someone else killed it he mighted be credited a "KS", but did not actually steal anything.

Or he could be grasping at straws. Either way.

KS yes or no simply means - the mob was killed by some one that wasn't in the guild/group of the person who initially aggro'd the mob on the encounter it was killed.

It doesn't take into account people helping a friend that aren't in the group or out of guild.

Bigole, by basic definition, kill stole that AC. Could he have been helping someone out of guild/group? Yes. Could he have blatantly stole the kill from someone else? Yes.

Kwetcher · #10 08-08-2012, 10:41 PM

You know all it would have taken was Hookrs to reply and say "Dude, that was my camp." or "Man, I didn't see you cast on the mob 4 times before I killed it." or just "It was mine." I know shit happens and I am level headed, I would have just stayed there and camped another one. But when he went /a and took off, well that just = douche baggery. The reason the timer was down to 3 minutes 44 secs was because I gave him time to reply before petitioning, I didn't even bitch to guild but only to the lil wiz I grouped up with after not receiving a reply. The ring to me didn't even matter as I was helping someone else, it was just the KS that pissed me off. As for some saying I just wanted to slander TMO in general is BS. I know no one in TMO personally other than a few business transactions. I have never been jaded against TMO even after reading many of the forums here because basically I wasn't there and it's none of my concern. I have had business with some from TMO and I have always provided service/items first before payment with no concerns. This was the only time that I had a bad experience with anyone in TMO. The only reason I posted his guild tag was so that hopefully he would be peer pressured into making it right. I am pretty much done with this, I have gotten my rant and received my flames...moving on.