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Old 11-17-2011, 06:46 AM
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end slave-on-slave violence now
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:43 AM
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lol'd at this thread, you've got brainwashed zealots who listen to rush limbaugh on a daily basis vs whatever's left over who aren't retarded enough to fall for that propaganda. Who wins in the end? Same as any pvp server, whoever is willing to fight for longer.
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People who have never attended an entire General Assembly should not talk about what the Occupy movement is or is not.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:36 AM
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People who have never attended an entire General Assembly should not talk about what the Occupy movement is or is not.
pretty sure its not about being an exclusive shitheel
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:46 PM
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People who have never attended an entire General Assembly should not talk about what the Occupy movement is or is not.

The movement itself doesn't know what it's about. How do the people. There's hundreds of different issues spewing out of the mouths of these hippies.

The main message, I agree with, but I WILL NOT support these fucks demanding there debt be wiped because they took a shitty womens study course and couldn't get a job from it. I will NOT support murder during a protest.

Yes take money out of politics. No don't quit your job to go protest about not having a job.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:04 PM
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The movement itself doesn't know what it's about. How do the people. There's hundreds of different issues spewing out of the mouths of these hippies.

The main message, I agree with, but I WILL NOT support these fucks demanding there debt be wiped because they took a shitty womens study course and couldn't get a job from it. I will NOT support murder during a protest.

Yes take money out of politics. No don't quit your job to go protest about not having a job.
funny, cause i just listened to an interview from a woman yesterday on NPR who is working 2 jobs while also attending these protests. she said she was literally physically assaulted by a police officer as they were trying to break up an otherwise peaceful protest. she also had a fairly easy to understand message. who are the police protecting and serving? the people? or corruption?
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:11 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of spoiled whiners who are pissed they studied retarded courses and can't find a cushy job after college.

You know what is always hiring?

Menial labor, if they wanted to make this country a better place they would go get jobs they seem to think they're *above* and pay some god damn taxes instead of bitching like spoiled brats.

Should have went to college when you could afford it, not on a bunch of loans and be mad at the world that things aren't working out for your dumbass.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:29 PM
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Sounds like a bunch of spoiled whiners who are pissed they studied retarded courses and can't find a cushy job after college.

You know what is always hiring?

Menial labor, if they wanted to make this country a better place they would go get jobs they seem to think they're *above* and pay some god damn taxes instead of bitching like spoiled brats.

Should have went to college when you could afford it, not on a bunch of loans and be mad at the world that things aren't working out for your dumbass.
This.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:11 PM
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The main message, I agree with, but I WILL NOT support these fucks demanding there debt be wiped because they took a shitty womens study course and couldn't get a job from it. I will NOT support murder during a protest.

Yes take money out of politics. No don't quit your job to go protest about not having a job.
What? I agree that some want their debt wiped and I think it's phalooey but more importantly the debt itself shouldn't exist. What it comes down to is this:

*Unions upped wages for teachers.
*Higher learning institutions upped revenue to pay for it.
*Higher learning institutions sopped up students' money to pay for it.
*Higher learning institutions realized they could get even more revenue when the government was more willing to supply student loans to cover the tuition hikes. They took even more money.
*Higher learning institutions (including law schools) DID actually lie (and get caught) about the profitability of some of the most prevalent degrees to get more people to apply and more students-on-loan to attend.
*Society stated, "hey, get a degree in this and you're good." How many years has that been the mantra of the previous generation? "Do what we did you'll live on easy street."
*Private sector pushed a lot of jobs overseas for the past 20-30 years, removing many production-based jobs, leaving mainly only service positions.
*Those getting out of college felt they were getting the short end of the stick. It became the norm to hear "you're overqualified" instead of "you're hired."
*The most menial jobs that are available are being taken by previous generations, leaving even less means to pay back the debt.



*More importantly all the prices of everything have gone up by hundreds of percent in comparison to the current minimum wage. It cannot keep up. Debt becomes almost a certain reality for a lot of people who have the dream of going to school.

*The premium increase is the same system that is seen in hospital/health insurance situations. Tylenol is not $25 a pill. A warm blanket is not $10. Health insurance pays for it (yay) Health insurance wouldn't be as expensive if hospitals would stop overcharging. Of course, a large portion of that money goes to it's workers who also need to make a living and find a way to make ends meet so the entire system is leaving a generation without a way to get out (or at least making it more difficult) because more money is the only answer. When you can't get more money you're fucked.


This is coming from someone who decided it was in the best of interests to walk away from college after realizing how much I was paying for so little. I have 0 debt as I purchased my car with cash that I saved. I have a positive income but also own no home. I pay health insurance car insurance and still maintain a comfortable lifestyle. If I lose my job I'd probably be up shit creek but I also have a backup fortune to take care of that for a while. I still identify with people that have not been that fortunate or miserly as myself because, excuse the inanity of this statement, humans are people, too.

The system is built to be unfair. The system is built to be a money sink... if you have it to spend on it, do it. If you can get a loan and pay it back, do it. If you can get a loan and can't pay it back, someone needs to do some 'splainin.


Even if you're against the idea of students attending schools they can't afford that then go into debt, think about it like this: Without the loans those schools wouldn't even be getting the money they currently do. It's a business much like any other private (or public) company. At the end of the day they need to turn a buck and accepting someone who will most assuredly go into debt all the while having a financing officer tell them, "oh we can work it out!" is a great way to get the green they need.

Hospitals do the same thing but on the opposite end of the spectrum; they are bound by the Hippocratic oath. They are required to treat anyone that comes through the door, even if the bare minimum. Part of their extended costs goes to cover those patients that insurance doesn't (or won't) cover.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:13 PM
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Oh yeah and as an example the local Occupy protest in my town has about 70-80% fully employed individuals that regularly camp out. The remainders are part timers, self employed, or homeless that either support the cause or just want a safe place to sleep (and may still support the cause but I can't effing understand them)
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