Xzerion says TR isn't shown favoritism?

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tr is a wart upon the otherwise still pretty ugly face of p99

It's skin cancer, not a wart.

[Quizy]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tr is a wart upon the otherwise still pretty ugly face of p99

it's retarded to just point a finger at TR.. jelly ?

[Slathar]

In the name of Jesus Christ, wipe it clean. It's unholy and I rebuke it.

[Pico]

not sure about retarded but u can buy wart jelly at any drugstore hth

[Foxx]

pvp could fix this

[Waffen]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pvp could fix this

nope. please insert coin and try again.

[Koota]

Sorry im late

[Skope]

Bronson, it was a bit backwards from the beginning, but i disagree with on some points.

To justify a guild-wide punishment you need to show proof that it was done with the entire guild there and they benefited in a competitive scenario against another guild. Like when koota was hacking, for example. He tracked via SEQ, uthgaard set up a sting operation (i think it was uth?) and the guild benefited. A 2 week raid suspension is understandable considering the circumstances. When one of their members got caught MQing in lguk, though, didn't warrant a guild-wide raid suspension because the guild didn't benefit.

The same should apply here. Perun was caught SEQing in a raid scenario where his guild benefited and thus they deserve a 2 week suspension.

What should be taken into account, though, is that if Durison got nicked for training the rules should apply here as well, but the punishment not as harsh. Training another guild at a raid means your guild benefits and i think would consequently justify a guild-wide raid suspension, but certainly not for 2 weeks.

When a guild member cheats via SEQ/MQ they should be permabanned, no questions asked. If that guild benefited from those cheats then they too get a raid suspension. But if a member cheats, trains, dupes for his own benefit then i can't see why an entire guild would be punished, nevermind every single raiding guild on the server.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What should be taken into account, though, is that if Durison got nicked for training the rules should apply here as well, but the punishment not as harsh. Training another guild at a raid means your guild benefits and i think would consequently justify a guild-wide raid suspension, but certainly not for 2 weeks.

When a guild member cheats via SEQ/MQ they should be permabanned, no questions asked. If that guild benefited from those cheats then they too get a raid suspension. But if a member cheats, trains, dupes for his own benefit then i can't see why an entire guild would be punished, nevermind every single raiding guild on the server.

I have no disagreement with you. I've actually commented on these specific points in a different thread. Using SEQ is an entirely different situation than aggroing mobs on a raid and training. Gwence was suspended on his monk for doing this in fear. Hell, Trystich did it to Daltheb on a draco raid. He had it recorded on FRAPS.

Nobody asked that they be raid suspended for those offenses. Appropriate actions were taken against the accounts. In this situation though we have precedent that has already been established by Rogean and Nilbog. If an officer/tracker/raid leader, ie someone in a position of leadership with a guild is caught hacking, the entire guild suffers as a result.

A minimum punishment for Perun using ShowEQ on competitive raids should a 2 week raid suspension for TR/IB. Period.

[JenJen]

ive got an idea

stop posting in this bullshit thread!