The absolute state of AI results.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wonder if old dudes said this about Excel.

Yep they did.

Again, a non-sequitur from shovelquest.

Your "gotcha" takes do not follow proper logical order.

[sammoHung]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like you could replace "calculator" with "AI", and a lot of the concerns from the 1970's would seem perfectly relevant today.

This is a half-baked take. It's not a good analogy. Calculators have a specific purpose of doing math.

Large Language Models are capable of so much more than just doing math, or any one specific task. In addition, calculator technology was not the driving force behind the world economy - like AI chip design is.

[Ephirith]

There already aren't enough jobs. Keeping everyone employed already depends on copious amounts of bullshit jobs that could easily be replaced by an LLM, as well as countless other non-bullshit professions where the entire left half of the IQ curve could be replaced by an LLM working under a human supervisor.

The first wave of industrial automation led to the modern welfare state, unemployment benefits, medicare, social security, etc. Hopefully if we're indeed in a new wave of intellectual automation, it leads to universal basic income. I want to do work that I want to do, for the sake of myself, my life, friends and family, and personal fulfillment... not out of coercion.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a half-baked take. It's not a good analogy. Calculators have a specific purpose of doing math.

Large Language Models are capable of so much more than just doing math, or any one specific task. In addition, calculator technology was not the driving force behind the world economy - like AI chip design is.

Both were technologies that (irrationally) scared people into thinking they were going to ruin everything ... but ultimately both are just another tool.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, a non-sequitur from shovelquest.

Your "gotcha" takes do not follow proper logical order.

well i gotcha!

thanks for the reply.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There already aren't enough jobs. Keeping everyone employed already depends on copious amounts of bullshit jobs that could easily be replaced by an LLM, as well as countless other non-bullshit professions where the entire left half of the IQ curve could be replaced by an LLM working under a human supervisor.

The first wave of industrial automation led to the modern welfare state, unemployment benefits, medicare, social security, etc. Hopefully if we're indeed in a new wave of intellectual automation, it leads to universal basic income. I want to do work that I want to do, for the sake of myself, my life, friends and family, and personal fulfillment... not out of coercion.

There is not a lack of jobs. We're in a labor shortage and have been for a long time. There might be a lack of overcompensated jobs, but there's plenty of opportunities to be a personal masseuse on a private island estate.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like you could replace "calculator" with "AI", and a lot of the concerns from the 1970's would seem perfectly relevant today.

Remember when Jurassic park came out and there was a war against movies that used cgi instead of practical vex?

If I recall the practical effects artist for Jurassic Park when he saw the computer animation said that he was extinct and then Steven Spielberg put that line in the movie and we all were like ha ha ha that’s cool.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both were technologies that (irrationally) scared people into thinking they were going to ruin everything ... but ultimately both are just another tool.

Yea, the plot to Jurassic Park is pretty much the plot to any new technology, including AI.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the entire left half of the IQ curve could be replaced

Now you’re speaking my language! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There already aren't enough jobs. Keeping everyone employed already depends on copious amounts of bullshit jobs that could easily be replaced by an LLM, as well as countless other non-bullshit professions where the entire left half of the IQ curve could be replaced by an LLM working under a human supervisor.

The first wave of industrial automation led to the modern welfare state, unemployment benefits, medicare, social security, etc. Hopefully if we're indeed in a new wave of intellectual automation, it leads to universal basic income. I want to do work that I want to do, for the sake of myself, my life, friends and family, and personal fulfillment... not out of coercion.

idk man, there are lots of jobs which could be done. The local authority could take household waste more frequently. More litter picking and street sweeping. Smaller class sizes so more teachers per student. Better road maintainance.

There are tonnes of jobs which aren't getting done but would benefit us all.

[shovelquest]

Someone answering the phone when you call the doctor would be nice.