student loans are a hit!

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

But no longer are their numbers negligible. Propaganda (trickle down!) is a magical thing.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah, you probably know about Ike's nephew or something. Ike wrote him a mil-spec grade letter while President. Basically spelled out the exact terrain that is fuckin with ye ol' American Way as we speak "Texas preachers" he even mentions at one point I am almost positive.

History: complicated, until you study it. Then just weird.

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/...on-eisenhower/

Time .... moves slow .... through time ....

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Excerpt. 1954 ya'll!
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Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But no longer are their numbers negligible. Propaganda (trickle down!) is a magical thing.

For what error do you invoke Eisenhower's name?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The assembly is called "Gestell" auf Deutsche.

[Elizondo]

Pages wasted chasing an obvious strawman

Obviously repeat offenders will not commit additional crimes if they are serving longer sentences

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously repeat offenders will not commit additional crimes if they are serving longer sentences

Obviously. But as a whole longer sentences don't lower overall crime rates because you're ultimately creating more and worse criminals.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously. But as a whole longer sentences don't lower overall crime rates because you're ultimately creating more and worse criminals.

I don’t care much if an 80yr old geezer after spending 30 years in prison is a worse criminal

Aside from gun violence (which he shouldn’t have as a felon and wouldn’t if I had my way and we brought back stop and frisk), his ability to commit violent crimes has plummeted

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously. But as a whole longer sentences don't lower overall crime rates because you're ultimately creating more and worse criminals.

If you want to get into why criminals are criminals we can do that

Hint: Primarily raised by single mothers

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to get into why criminals are criminals we can do that

Hint: Primarily raised by single mothers

Maybe this is true, as a statistic, but it is disingenuous to conclude "mothers should stay married NO MATTER THE SITUATION to save society from criminals".
These single mothers become single for MANY REASONS.
Arsehole fathers being arseholes cause some.
Cunty women being cunts also cause some.

Spouse death.

Just two people grow the fuck apart.
So, we maybe need to understand the why part of marriage breakdown. Can we agree on that?

What about lesbian parents, technically not single moms, any stats on gay couples making criminals?
I'd love some research on that.
But god, wont someone think of god!#! HashclaimationPoint (PatentPending)

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe this is true, as a statistic, but it is disingenuous to conclude "mothers should stay married NO MATTER THE SITUATION to save society from criminals".
These single mothers become single for MANY REASONS.
Arsehole fathers being arseholes cause some.
Cunty women being cunts also cause some.

Spouse death.

Just two people grow the fuck apart.
So, we maybe need to understand the why part of marriage breakdown. Can we agree on that?

What about lesbian parents, technically not single moms, any stats on gay couples making criminals?
I'd love some research on that.
But god, wont someone think of god!#! HashclaimationPoint (PatentPending)

Welfare and entitlements that incentivize single motherhood certainly don't help. Black families were far more likely to remain intact *before* the civil rights movement. Which is absolutely NOT an endorsement of jim crow laws, but rather a massive indictment of these programs. They had good intentions, but unfortunately they have drastically incentivized all the social conditions that lead to crime. And no this doesn't just apply to black families. There are far more fatherless white children today than there were in the first half of the 20th century as a result of those same incentives. And then there's modern social attitudes and religiosity but that's a separate issue that's much harder to quantify.

I don't know the stats on same-sex couples and child rearing, but I think it's reasonable to conclude that two fathers or two mothers will lack the inherent value of the opposite sex being present in raising the children. Whatever fathers are good at will be lacking in a lesbian couple's parenting, and whatever mothers are good at will be lacking in a gay couple's parenting.

Which isn't to say same sex couples can't raise good kids, I'm sure they can and do. But not every critique of it has to come from some hateful biggotted place.

[unsunghero]

How about we do a study on how gangs operate differently in different cities

Since crime rates are only based on sentencing