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[Origen]

Men commit most violent crime. Let's double the penalties of all male convicted offenders

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Men commit most violent crime. Let's double the penalties of all male convicted offenders

Fine with that. Harsh consequences are an effective deterrent, which is their main purpose

Not committing felonies isn’t rocket science. The vast majority of the population, including the very poorest, have it figured out

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Men commit most violent crime. Let's double the penalties of all male convicted offenders

If you're suggesting black people get higher penalties than white people that's again total bullshit.

For a black *first time* offender and a white *first time* offender, in the same jurisdiction, for the same crime, the penalties are statistically identical.

[Trexller]

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Men commit most violent crime. Let's double the penalties of all male convicted offenders

Unforced error here.

[Nibblewitz]

Could it be that the sexes aren’t equal? Perish the thought!

[Trexller]

males always receive a harsher sentence than females for the exact same crime

don't even mention divorce court

funny how in the age of "equity" nobody ever bitches about the ways that dudes get fucked over

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unforced error here.

Death Penalty convictions ect. ect.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fine with that. Harsh consequences are an effective deterrent, which is their main purpose

In what alternate universe?

Study after study has shown harsher sentences don't deter crime:

Originally Posted by https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime

“Deterrence is very largely an article of faith,” says UNSW Law Emeritus Professor David Brown. “I call it sentencing’s dirty secret because it’s just assumed that there is deterrence … but what the research shows is that the system has little to no deterrent effect.”

It's very, very simple: let's say you're thinking of killing someone. Do you stop and think "well, in some other state murder is a ten year sentence, but in my state it's twenty years, so I better not murder this guy?" No, you either think "I'm not going to get caught, so it doesn't matter", or you're acting in a fit of rage (and not thinking at all).

Harsher penalties are good for exactly one thing: making victims feel better ... and not by much. If your mom gets murdered, do you really think you're going to feel much better when the guy who murdered your family member gets 20 years instead of 10?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In what alternate universe?

Study after study has shown harsher sentences don't deter crime:



It's very, very simple: let's say you're thinking of killing someone. Do you stop and think "well, in some other state murder is a ten year sentence, but in my state it's twenty years, so I better not murder this guy?" No, you either think "I'm not going to get caught, so it doesn't matter", or you're acting in a fit of rage (and not thinking at all).

Harsher penalties are good for exactly one thing: making victims feel better ... and not by much. If your mom gets murdered, do you really think you're going to feel much better when the guy who murdered your family member gets 20 years instead of 10?

Are you kidding? I really don’t care what cherry-picked studies you can find, the difference of giving away 10 additional years of your life is monumental. How about you go sit in a box for 10 years and tell me how easy it would be to do another 10

Ridiculous argument