November 2022 Election Predictions

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact is:

The government lies.
News Corp omits- errs- and some times flat out lies
YouTube didn't help.

Dems ignore the truths and cherry pick issues just as hard as Adems. This further obfuscation of the truth protects people like Hillary and weird ass 13 year old 65 Madonna and Empowers people like Putin.

Dems won't own that.

I could list several things republicans won’t own. But that’s not the point of the post I made. Mainstream conspiracy thought in our society is toxic to our democracy. If people can’t rely on what is actually true, and if there is an “alternative fact” that confirms their beliefs, some people have proven to believe whatever is most convenient for them.

Flat earthers, Paul is dead, the moon landing was a fake, aliens are running our earth, lizard people are politicians, the earth is hollow, Alex Jones=Bill Hicks…pizzagate, Sandy book crisis actors, the 2020 election was stolen

All of these are fun to discuss, and I assume fun to believe. You’re in on a secret that way.

It isn’t healthy.

[magnetaress]

Skarne there where and are died in the wool Republicans that supported a peaceful transition in 2020 or whatever it was. If there weren't so many. Many of them also capital police or likely some special forces too. We wouldn't have had a relatively peaceful transition of power that has mostly lasted as long as it has.

You're doing the binary 10 either or us vs them thing.

There's a lot of fantastic Republicans. It's a shame that they are drowned by Rhetoric.

The truth is growing numbers in both parties don't want peace anymore. Sadly.

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol I disagree with you on every point you’ve made. Except one. We’ll see by the end of the week.

I do know one thing for sure though. One side will accept either outcome. The other will only accept one outcome if they win.

Uhhh, yes. This is called projection. Hillary still hasn't conceded 2016, stacey abrahams in GA didn't accept her loss, claimed it was fraud, and is currently pre-emptively suggesting it's going to happen again. The main dem talking point right now is "democracy is at stake", which would seem to suggest republicans winning can't possibly ever be democratic, by definition, which is just literal broad-scale, general-purpose election denial. What in god's name are you talking about?

Trump in 2020 did what he does, which is bluster a lot. He still urged his followers to be peaceful and patriotic on jan 6th, and then on jan 7th immediately conceded formally and emphasized that there would now be an orderly transfer of power. Those are his words. I'm not even some crazy life long republican, I have almost always voted for dems and I still would if they'd stop being so completely insane, but no the right is not the side of "election denial".

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Skarne there where and are died in the wool Republicans that supported a peaceful transition in 2020 or whatever it was. If there weren't so many. Many of them also capital police or likely some special forces too. We wouldn't have had a relatively peaceful transition of power that has mostly lasted as long as it has.

You're doing the binary 10 either or us vs them thing.

There's a lot of fantastic Republicans. It's a shame that they are drowned by Rhetoric.

The truth is growing numbers in both parties don't want peace anymore. Sadly.

Again, the conspiracy thought is what’s destroying our public discourse. I don’t care that there are good on both sides. One side is actively telling its constituents conspiracy dribble night after night. If you can’t see it, it means you are actively looking away from it.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh, yes. This is called projection. Hillary still hasn't conceded 2016, stacey abrahams in GA didn't accept her loss, claimed it was fraud, and is currently pre-emptively suggesting it's going to happen again. The main dem talking point right now is "democracy is at stake", which would seem to suggest republicans winning can't possibly ever be democratic, by definition, which is just literal broad-scale, general-purpose election denial. What in god's name are you talking about?

Trump in 2020 did what he does, which is bluster a lot. He still urged his followers to be peaceful and patriotic on jan 6th, and then on jan 7th immediately conceded formally and emphasized that there would now be an orderly transfer of power. Those are his words. I'm not even some crazy life long republican, I have almost always voted for dems and I still would if they'd stop being so completely insane, but no the right is not the side of "election denial".

Except there are 302 election denying candidates vying for high office. “Frankly, we did win this election”. The guy still goes on radio shows saying the election was stolen. You either haven’t seen any of what him and his shitty endorsed candidates have said like Kari Lake, or you’re straight up lying and dismissing it because you don’t want to accept it.

I don’t have enough time to pick apart all your claims above except only to say both Hillary and Stacey abrams conceded. Discussing concerns is not the same as denying a concession. Like I said we’ll see what happens this week. At least I know that whichever way it goes, the people I voted for will accept the outcome of the people.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could list several things republicans won’t own. But that’s not the point of the post I made. Mainstream conspiracy thought in our society is toxic to our democracy. If people can’t rely on what is actually true, and if there is an “alternative fact” that confirms their beliefs, some people have proven to believe whatever is most convenient for them.

Flat earthers, Paul is dead, the moon landing was a fake, aliens are running our earth, lizard people are politicians, the earth is hollow, Alex Jones=Bill Hicks…pizzagate, Sandy book crisis actors, the 2020 election was stolen

All of these are fun to discuss, and I assume fun to believe. You’re in on a secret that way.

It isn’t healthy.

You're absolutely right. I don't know what is real anymore outside of some hard science that mostly goes a long way to attempt to describe the simulation we experience as reality. Even hardcore physicists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku

And hawking himself pressed X for doubt much during their lives..

That said I truly try to aid in governing in a grounded way. Which is exactly why I asked my mom help me chose my vote this year.

I leave u this

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[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember in 16 when democrats accepted the results of the election.

lol

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry your DNA got changed and tainted from your 15th jab

Lol

[Skarne]

I’ll respond for you.

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sad SkarneAsada tries to tell the dangers of conspiracy thought. Comedy ensues.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha that’s not what I’m saying. However with a victim mentality it’ll be more difficult for you to do that. Especially if you’re constantly moping around complaining and posting paragraphs long conspiracy thoughts. I understand it’s easier to blame a conspiracy than to take responsibility.

You sound like every murderous dictator in a country about to turn into flaming ruin.