mRNA

[teai]

Originally Posted by Patrece [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(look it up)

i am well informed of all the root explanations that actually make sense. Money incentives, political motivations, personal conviction ect. Yet those are never cited; Its always turned into a form of socio-stigmata as they reveal their superior education, social status and income to somehow propagate their view amongst the rabble.

Its utterly pathetic. If someone said, " I got paid $1000 per toddler " I would have more respect than someone just uttering random personal achievements.

I makes me recall,

“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”

From the viewpoint of someone aware of this, obviously having taken place in history, but unable to comprehend themselves are being " Taken unawares " The bias is confounding and its hard to believe there is someone inside thinking these thoughts.

Its scary to contemplate the emptiness inside people sometimes.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by teai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does anyone cite their education and amazing credentials when they are completely unrelated to MRNA therapy? The spiral of intellectual shaming is very obvious and almost like a self hugging psychological technique.

I have remained unvaxxed and untested during this entire ordeal. I will not forget how people were trying to label me and my family for being resolute. To demean people further by pretending you are part of a superior ruling caste because of your education and income is just one of the most insulting and pathetic things.

Ignorance is something different from education. There are plenty of people educated in the Bible, but they are ignorant of its history. There are plenty of people educated in science, but they are ignorant of how to use it, or why it works. You can't just cherry pick the things you want to learn and then pretend you've done all the work of figuring things out. The fact is, as studies show and our own human experience shows (if you bother to look) is that when someone lands on a belief, it's almost impossible to get them to change their belief. People change their minds way less than you think. If you go into something thinking your right about it, you're gonna go on thinking your right about it. You'll look for all the confirming evidence that you're right and work hard to dismiss the disconfirming evidence. If you ignore the disconfirming evidence that makes you ignorant, no matter what you think you know about the subject.

But, in the end, it doesn't matter what you think or believe at all. Reality is always right. You can stomp your feet and swear that you can fly, but if you step off a cliff, gravity will kill you just the same. If you don't test your beliefs against reality and then change them when you find out they don't match reality, it'll kill you.

At the start of the pandemic, I changed my mind. I thought the virus was just gonna be a bad flu season. I thought all the panic was overblown. But then people started dying so fast they had no place to store the bodies. Ordinary folks were dropping like flies and people like my parents were being hit the hardest. So I changed my mind about it for my parents and other people's parents.

And as far as vaccines? That shit has been settled for two centuries. The technology is as old as toilet paper. Saying you don't believe in vaccines is like saying you don't believe in wiping your ass.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But then people started dying so fast they had no place to store the bodies. Ordinary folks were dropping like flies and people like my parents were being hit the hardest. So I changed my mind about it for my parents and other people's parents.

From what we now know of how the vaccine works, you getting the vaccine does very little to protect your parents from dying to covid. Your parents getting the vaccine could do quite a bit to prevent your parents from dying to covid, assuming the vaccine works to teach the body how to fight covid

The fine print is it could be argued that getting over covid easier due to being vaccinated might involve releasing fewer droplets into an environment (due less severe symptoms) so maybe in that regard someone being vaccinated could slightly protect those around from catching it but that would probably only be for those living in your household

It’s not your fault that you believed getting the vaccine meant you wouldn’t spread covid, this is something we were all told. This always seemed odd to me, because the body still needs to catch covid to beat it. And if the vaccine is causing the body to beat covid so handily, with so few symptoms, then it would make you wonder if you would be MORE likely to spread covid due to not even realizing you have it

I think there are a lot of hypotheticals with all of it, including lockdowns and masks

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what we now know of how the vaccine works, you getting the vaccine does very little to protect your parents from dying to covid. Your parents getting the vaccine could do quite a bit to prevent your parents from dying to covid, assuming the vaccine works to teach the body how to fight covid

The fine print is it could be argued that getting over covid easier due to being vaccinated might involve releasing fewer droplets into an environment (due less severe symptoms) so maybe in that regard someone being vaccinated could slightly protect those around from catching it but that would probably only be for those living in your household

It’s not your fault that you believed getting the vaccine meant you wouldn’t spread covid, this is something we were all told. This always seemed odd to me, because the body still needs to catch covid to beat it. And if the vaccine is causing the body to beat covid so handily, with so few symptoms, then it would make you wonder if you would be MORE likely to spread covid due to not even realizing you have it

I think there are a lot of hypotheticals with all of it, including lockdowns and masks

I never said I believed getting the vaccine would prevent me from spreading covid. Nobody made that claim. At least nobody who understands how vaccines work. The vaccine is meant to keep you safe and prevent severe outcomes.

But one thing the vaccine does do as a happy side effect (if more people get a shot) is it reduces the length of the disease, which would inherently reduce the rate of transmission.

If you're sick for a month VS just a week, you're gonna be more likely to spread it more.

But I'll wait for you to throw up another false strawman.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But one thing the vaccine does do as a happy side effect (if more people get a shot) is it reduces the length of the disease, which would inherently reduce the rate of transmission.

If you're sick for a month VS just a week, you're gonna be more likely to spread it more.

But I'll wait for you to throw up another false strawman.

You do realize I said that exact thing? Let’s read it together this time:

“The fine print is it could be argued that getting over covid easier due to being vaccinated might involve releasing fewer droplets into an environment (due less severe symptoms) so maybe in that regard someone being vaccinated could slightly protect those around from catching it but that would probably only be for those living in your household”


So you’re coming up with a scenario of someone who would be sick a month, which would be pretty severe for covid, would only be sick a week and therefore not spread as much? I would imagine if they were as sick as a month of covid would be, that they would follow orders to quarantine regardless. So like I said, it could help to protect those in the household

Another scenario: a very healthy person gets vaccinated. They probably would have easily gotten over covid without the vaxx with only 1 day of fever. Now with the vaxx, they don’t get the fever, and think they just have a small cough. So they don’t get tested and instead go to work. That’s a scenario where getting over symptoms easier became a bad thing, in regards to virulence

That’s why I said there’s a lot of hypotheticals

[Patrece]

You can buy off a scientist just like you can buy off a politician.

The problem is, the truth always comes out. Watch all those soccer players drop on the field.

[teai]

I am not really talking about someone being paid off, as they have a reason. Or someone being intimidated, as they have a reason. Its more the miasma of arrogance surrounded the servants of the rulers as they cite personal merit as a blind cover for any opposition. More akin to a feudal lord slapping a servant for looking at him, that sort of folly.

[Patrece]

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[teai]

That was global warming ;3

[Patrece]

Originally Posted by teai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was global warming ;3

Lol, knew I liked you